Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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Yep, get rid, great way for this woman to mark Holocaust Memorial Day.

jane burkini (suzy), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link

Both Walker and Reeves should be kicked out.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

There was some grudging acceptance that Corbyn's speech was good. Its not their politics, and the 'electrifying delivery' brigade were in full force (no JC doesn't look or sound like you bland grads fuck off) but ppl are giving it an easier time, possibly because no mass of intervention could move Corbyn. Pretty much the only game in town for Labour for the next 18 months or so at the least.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

So happy at the immigration line, especially after the racist claptrap from the likes of Reeves.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^

conrad, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

Momentum/Cobynista types I follow on twitter etc seem fairly unanimous in their opinion that Walker should go, I don't know if this is an actual consensus though, or just the consensus in my self-selected bubble?

soref, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Yes

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Was an xp but either way. This is what we're fighting against

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

Absolutely. Reeves inflammatory hate speak (albeit disguised as concern) is just as appalling as Walker's horrible outbursts. Both of these idiots are not fit for the party.

calzino, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

oh yeah, I took it for granted that pretty much everyone on ilx would agree with that. I was thinking more along the lines of what level of support Walker still has among Momentum members in general

soref, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

goysplaining

About 925 results (0.28 seconds)

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

FFF ‏@UKIPBIackpool 4h4 hours ago

Cut my Labour Membership Card into pieces
This is my last resort

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

FFF ‏@UKIPBIackpool 4h4 hours ago

Snap Election
Wes Streeting
Got Ejected From
The Local CLP Meeting

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

this is p full-throated full-throated (partly driven by oborne's loathing of blair of course)

mark s, Thursday, 29 September 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link

he is right to loathe Blair and right about Corbyn's mandate

i bill everything i duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

corbyn interview with oborne and david hearst from a month ago, mainly on foreign policy (this may have been linked before -- apologies if so)

mark s, Thursday, 29 September 2016 10:38 (seven years ago) link

Coming to post that. Fucking Hannan is the slipperiest, most odious, most cunt of all the Brexiters.

stet, Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

Jesus, what a repulsive cast of characters in that piece.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

“It passes by as the idle wind that I respect not”

0_o

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

not sure how well sam kriss goes down on ilx but I agree with him on the (never spoken) terrifying incoherence and unpredictability of how people vote and the concomitant desperate pretentiousness behind the obsession with electability
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/labour-and-electability-sam-kriss

ogmor, Friday, 30 September 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

It's a good article but I don't know why he's surprised that people love Corbin less than his policies - the papers have been against him since Day 1, and people as he says trust personalities over people kit is - if he does do that thing you like, he'll do it wrong because he's Wrong.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 30 September 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

I don't know whether papers have been against him since Day 1 explains it. Its a number of things. Corbyn doesn't look like a leader and (he would admit this) wasn't meant to be one.

Was just reading that piece. I kinda like Sam although he wastes energy attacking Nick Cohen or some shit bag easy target but there is a feeling that doing the thinking and doing the doing are a problem for him, me, all of us - which is why his stuff on Harambe and flat earthers reads so much better to me.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/30/labour-suspends-jackie-walker-over-holocaust-comments

But former London mayor Ken Livingstone defended some of Walker’s comments, saying “there’s a difference between ignorance and antisemitism”.

AARGH SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

soref, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I know ppl keep asking him about this stuff, but would it kill him to just say "no comment"? who does he think he's helping at this point?

soref, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

they both seem to have the same anti-Israel state virus that goes way beyond casual anti-semitism, it is like they are fucking possessed.

calzino, Friday, 30 September 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

cf swathes of SWP-influenced leftists

Still D.U.C.K. (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 October 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

Article 50 will be triggered by March 2017, according to May.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

stoked for the madness

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link

Lee Westwood would approve.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link

good luck UK

minimal hat spiritualism (seandalai), Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:07 (seven years ago) link

it still might not happen

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 2 October 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

pma

conrad, Sunday, 2 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

I keep wondering if May is being all "yep, Brexit, gonna do that on April 1st" to stir the moneyed interests in the UK that will suffer to do what they can to change the "conversation" and ease an exit from Brexit somehow. But this is probably wishful thinking on my part and May is going to steer the country into Brexit and oblivion.

But surely the inevitable subsequent financial fallout of Brexit will ruin the Tories for at least an election or two?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

I think they have started to believe their own hype — that everyone will give them what they want and they'll get a Brexit bounce straight into the 2020 election. A breakout session at conference this week has them planning for power until 2035

stet, Sunday, 2 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

the Hunt thing about getting rid of EU medical staff being fine because we'll train up more doctors of our own makes me hunger for his head on a spike

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Sunday, 2 October 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

I have been away and have missed some of these great stories

but before I left, I did hear something about Rachel Reeves and thought: well, that sounds like Enoch Powell in a way! and was annoyed that she gets a 'free ride' because she is against Mr Corbyn, probably

I sadly missed Corbyn's speech and hope to catch up on it, some time !!

the pinefox, Monday, 3 October 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-news-andrea-leadsom-young-britons-fruit-picking-eu-migrants-a7342196.html

"My absolute hope is that with more apprenticeships, with more young people being encouraged to engage with countryside matters, that actually the concept of a career in food production is going to be much more appealing going forward."

lol!

calzino, Monday, 3 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

"why wages aren't higher and so on"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/783047118235787265

Momentum decision on Jackie Walker. this seems kind of like a fudge that will satisfy precisely no-one? (sacked as vice-chair of steering committee, but remains on the committee and a member of Momentum, Momentum say that none of her individual statements were anti-semitic in and of themselves, but that Walker has shown poor judgment and should have "done more to explain herself to mitigate the upset caused", and call for Labour party not to expel her)

soref, Monday, 3 October 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

no explanation necessary, she made herself perfectly clear.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

Kristall cleat

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Clear obv

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Monday, 3 October 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

Momentum complaining about footage of the meeting where Walker made these comments being leaked to the press also seems particularly ill-judged

soref, Monday, 3 October 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

Doesnt countryside matters mean fucking? It did in hamlet.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 01:03 (seven years ago) link

What is going to be the main selling point for these 3 day long crop cutting "apprenticeships"?

Smuggle the fucking cabbages under your jacket, then you won't need the foodbank:p

calzino, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

damn son https://twitter.com/Peston/status/783034000801685601

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 06:29 (seven years ago) link


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