I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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There's a yuge thing out there about how her responses sounded memorized, which means SHE DEFINITELY GOT THE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE.

No apparent clue that maybe the reasons her responses sounded memorized was because there's only like twelve things a reasonable person might ask about, and her preparation included memorizing answers TO THOSE QUESTIONS. Gah.

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Twelve things is about eleven more things than the average Trump supporter's mind could retain at one time, though, so she either cheated or she's some kind of witch.

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Maybe, just for fairness's sake, the next moderator needs to ask about something she can't possible have prepared for.

"Secretary Clinton, hypothetically, if our Mars colony is overrun by Squid People, how will you respond to the Squid Peoples' demand for the right to vote in American elections? By the way, your critics have charged that you have not adequately clarified your views on the rights of Squid People."

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

* can't possibly

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

The Fahrenthold interview on Fresh Air just now was pretty illuminating, just listening to the guy put it all together. I can totally see his investigation serving as the base for a future Watergate, or snagging Capone on taxes. Whatever he is getting paid, as one of the few working journalists actually doing some work anymore he deserves a raise.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

rather than attempting to do any damage control in the wake of the debate, Trump doubled down about how awful the woman was.

^^^ this. He has no ability to apologize for anything. Ever. And even his attempts to spin things, like birtherism, are extremely clumsy. I hope there are numerous doublings down between now and election day.

Wants to impose Sriracha law in America (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

Kaepernick said the debate was "embarrassing to watch" and that it's "hard to believe these are our candidates," according to Kevin Jones of KNBR Radio in San Francisco.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2666244-colin-kaepernick-comments-on-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-presidential-debate

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if debate training in the form somebody asking her absurdist questions and responses written by Zach Galifinakis, Scott Awkserman, and the rest of the Between Two Ferns/ComedybBang Bang group would be highly beneficial

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

todd bawkertin

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Kaepernick, who has sparked a national debate with his protests of racial injustice in the United States, made it clear he was not a fan of Trump's campaign slogan.

"He always says, 'Make America great again.' Well, America has never been great for people of color and that's something that needs to be addressed," Kaepernick said, per ESPN.com's Nick Wagoner. "Let's make America great for the first time."

nomar, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

i'm having trouble running this down -- i saw some chatter that HRC campaign had been running ads about The Machado Insult in spanish for some time?

goole, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Wait is Greenwald trying to imply that campaign staff strategically "leaking" tips to sympathetic press is some kind of shady stuff?

Does he understand how his bread has been buttered for the last few years?

Never mind I know the answers to both of these questions

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

I thought Greenwald was mocking the first person for (seemingly) not understanding that this whole thing was orchestrated

¶ (DJP), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

That's how I read it too.

I had no idea Cosmopolitan was a bastion of hard news either.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

i would love it some of those bang bang people or people like that would write some trolling zingers for her to say to trump. just stuff she could use in any debate moment. stuff that you wouldn't think you'd hear hillary say. cuz then millennials would make her a meme hero.

x-post

scott seward, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

didn't Cosmo run Ivanka off with hard hittin questions on daddy's maternity leave proposal

serge thoroughgoods (will), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Guys, @lhfang works for Greenwald.

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link

Chuck Tingle's recap of the first debate is far more interesting:

https://storify.com/ChuckTingle/debate-1

Includes:

Chuck Tingle @ChuckTingle

LAW AND ORDER TROMP claims disenfranchised americans are violent monsters, while tentacles and crabs continue to erupt from HIS OWN eyes

8:52 PM - 26 Sep 2016

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

i would love it some of those bang bang people or people like that would write some trolling zingers for her to say to trump.

I would not back this idea; we've seen the awkward way she can deliver (and repeat) word-for-word previously memorized lines.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Chuck Tingle material: important if true

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

holy shit @ those vic berger videos loool

marcos, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

i'm glad you guys are happy with a Thrillary-embedded press

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

(which you've been groundlessly begging for all these months)

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

this got lost in the shuffle but i lol'd

Marco Rubio: “I didn’t see (the debate), guys. I was on an airplane.”

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

For the love of Christ, Morbs. Have you somehow failed to notice Trump's constant employment of news media for his own ends or is this just selective myopia? Oh, wait, never mind...

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Not seeing an exact parallel as this 'employment' consists of He's Loud and Gets Ratings, but moving on...

Corey Robin on DT's "I'm smart cuz i don't pay taxes":

there’s a not so small current in American politics that would hear that, that Trump didn’t pay his taxes, and think, with him, that he was indeed smart for having outsmarted the system. And would want to align themselves with him as a result. In the hope that they too could learn these tricks some day or that they too could one day be rich enough not to pay their taxes.

This is a nation of conmen (and women), as everyone from Melville to Mamet has understood. A nation that dreams of, and longs for, the quick buck. The more crooked the path, the more glorious the payoff.

If there was any one point last night where I thought to myself, Trump is connecting with the voters, it was this.

http://coreyrobin.com/2016/09/27/donald-trumps-one-strength-he-understands-that-we-are-a-nation-of-conmen-and-women/

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

anyway i eagerly await Clinton's election as it will be easy to dehumanize her again

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

I thought that was his best "connection" moment too but I assume there are plenty of these people too.

Donald Trump so captured Ron Townley’s attention as “an outsider ready to tear down the system,” just the one who might break the Washington logjam, the doer to build new airports and highways, that he was considering voting for him.

But Trump’s response Monday night when Hillary Clinton accused him of not paying a cent of federal tax left Townley appalled.

“That makes me smart,” Trump said, unapologetic and smiling, during the presidential debate, held in Hempstead, N.Y.

That comment caused a gasp in the hotel conference room where Townley and five other undecided voters in this ­battleground state were watching the debate.

“That’s offensive. I pay taxes,” said Townley, 52, a program ­director for a local council of governments.

“Another person would be in jail for that,” said Jamilla Hawkins, 33, who was sitting beside him in the Crescent conference room at the Embassy Suites in this city of 150,000 near Raleigh.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-lean-toward-clinton-among-one-group-of-undecided-north-carolina-voters/2016/09/27/ff271b2e-8469-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop_b

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

one from the trump fascist thread:

MIchiko Kakutani found a loophole in godwin's law: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/books/hitler-ascent-volker-ullrich.html
― rob, Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:25 PM (

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

This is a nation of conmen (and women), as everyone from Melville to Mamet has understood. A nation that dreams of, and longs for, the quick buck. The more crooked the path, the more glorious the payoff.

this country was founded on war profiteering, slavery and exploitation - so yeah.. also the way the economy is set up these days its hard to make a legit fortune without doing any of the above short of inventing something. the rest is just fucking people over.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

xxp and god knows you live for dehumanizing people, you self righteous fake leftist you

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

i had dinner for work with an ex-military republican from VA and he loooooooooves tim kaine and is voting for hillary because of that (i get the impression he would have stayed home otherwise)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

xxp and god knows you live for dehumanizing people, you self righteous fake leftist you

Does he even pretend to be a leftist (whatever that means) anymore? He's just anti-Clinton, without actually being pro-anything, as far as I can tell.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

Oh, he pretends to be a leftist whenever it gives him the opportunity to feel morally superior to the rest of ILX.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

He is pro-anti-Clinton

Evan, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

you self righteous fake leftist you

can't wait for the FAP!

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

i usually fake with my left b4 the right cross, or vice versa

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

i usually fake with my left b4 the right cross, or vice versa

You punch with whichever hand you're not currently jerking off with. Got it.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

vegas gotta get in on this upcoming bout

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Can kill u with either hand, he's an ambi-Dexter.

Mike Pence shakes his head and mouths the word ‘no’ (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

(just wanted to make that joke, not taking sides in theoretical Morbs v. hivemind bout)

Mike Pence shakes his head and mouths the word ‘no’ (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

What happen when the Daily Caller tries to slam Machado, lacking even the élan & decorum of the Federalist:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/27/porn-star-campaigns-for-hillary-clinton/

Posting a pic of her meeting Bill, and also sources a story from the Daily Mail

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

i am NOT morally superior to the rest of ILX. just the politics posters

(kidding, just Mordy, Phil D and the idiot who makes jerkoff jokes)

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

the idiot who makes jerkoff jokes

oh you gotta be more specific that that come on

marcos, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if Trump has to consciously stop himself from making the jerk off hand motion during a debate

Evan, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

he made the penis kiss face motion in this one

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

By the 3rd debate he'll probly be using both hands

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

Snippets of an adult film starring Machado are available on multiple free porn websites.

when reporting and personal life get... too close

goole, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

Every time I see it, I assume that this is Trump's facial analogue of the jerk-off hand gesture:

http://www.motherjones.com/files/trump4.jpg

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link


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