I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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Been waiting for Kaleb Horton's monster piece on the conventions and it's out:

http://www.mtv.com/news/2937584/how-i-spent-my-summer-vacation/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

another neat bit on language, and the crowd for whom "truthiness" is an accurate descriptor, since what determines the truthfulness of a statement is its emotional aspect, that it is said with "passionate sincerity" and "sincere passion," rather than its accuracy in corresponding to external reality. Also gets into why fuckheads loudly chafe at "political correctness."

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

The David Roberts piece linked by kingfish is echoed by what Blow said in the Times and what this piece in the Week says:

http://theweek.com/articles/651768/why-donald-trump-even-worse-second-debate

on a more fundamental level, Trump will have to keep himself from acting on what we now understand are very powerful impulses. It isn't just about practicing more or having a few zingers ready. It's about who he is at his very core. Clinton obviously understood that. She knew that just by attacking Trump, she could guide the discussion where she wanted it to go, since he is constitutionally incapable of letting any criticism pass without a counterattack. She also seemed to grasp that with the right kind of bait, she could get him to undermine himself. So she accused him of not paying taxes and he actually admitted it, saying, "That makes me smart." She said he stiffs his contractors, and he insisted that they must not have deserved to be paid. In other words, she knew that Trump absolutely must be seen by others as a shrewd businessman who gets the better of the people he deals with. What are the chances that wouldn't work if Clinton did it again, no matter how many times Trump's aides begged him not to take the bait? And you can bet she has some other stinging attacks all lined up.

So maybe my longed-for "If you're so interested in bringing American manufacturing back, why do you make your ties in China?" thing is coming next time. Maybe even "if you're so gung-ho about American workers, why do your hotels employ so many foreign guest workers?" He'll splutter again about devalued currency, wasting time that he could have been spending on Benghazi or whatever.

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

keep it up Donald

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/262583859709882369

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

That's from 2012, idgi

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

unless he means that Trump's got a truckoad of rancid tweets that even his minions working 24 hour a day can't erase

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

yes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

I hope Trump does try to take on this "I'm a defender of women!" schtick it will backfire so beautifully

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

Tecate ran a beer advert on Monday featuring a "Tecate Beer Wall" cutting thru the desert, where American dudes and Mexican dudes meet to chug brews from a shared ice cooler.

The narrator intones that “The time has come for a wall, a tremendous wall. The best wall.”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bev4NZEFsCQ

https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/how-a-mexican-beer-ad-trolled-trump-and-fox-news-during-the-presidential-debates

http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/debate-ad-tecate-turns-trump-s-wall-a-beer-prop/305999/

Hard to imagine their VP not sniggering when he said this:

Asked if the brew was taking a side, Tecate VP Felix Palau said the brand is not trying to get political. Rather, the debate -- and the border issue -- presents a marketing opportunity for the Mexican brand to inject itself in the conversation, he said. "We are totally neutral," he said. "We don't have any political point-of-view or affiliation. We just want to tell a story where people from two bordering countries are united by beer."

They naturally ran it on Telemundo, Univision, and Fox News.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

I want to call Trump a half-deflated football filled with dogshit who's going to lose this election like an incontinent septuagenarian loses control over his bladder, but I won't.

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtiVt8tW8AE7FPy.jpg

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

OMG he's going plotz so hard.

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

Thoroughly expect him to take some time during the next debate to be all, "The awful, failing New Yorker wants you to believe I'm a fat, ugly beauty queen who cries and wears a dress. Wrong. Wrong."

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

As our children will one day read in their history books (in the chapter titled “We’re Sorry”)

chapter?

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, most of history has been pretty chill, iirc.

I Still Don't Regret My Crazy Town Neck Tat, and Here's Why (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

You're Welcome (We're Sorry): A History of Human Civilization

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

I'm thinking high school textbook. Sorry Not Sorry: The American Story

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

If We Did It

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

lol

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

The American Sorry

Evan, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

If We Did It

srsly dying

serge thoroughgoods (will), Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

lmao that's gold

goole, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

unless he means that Trump's got a truckoad of rancid tweets that even his minions working 24 hour a day can't erase

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have to believe that the clinton oppo research team has already archived every single trump tweet in a searchable database

marcos, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

on a private server

Evan, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

Breaking: POKER PRO AGREES – Hillary Was Sending Hand Signals to Debate Moderator Holt

goole, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

lol it's fucking Mike Matusow

frogbs, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Been some great fresh descriptions of Trump lately. "Donald Trump has a face like a rusted manhole cover." "A shaken three-liter of Sunkist that has spewed its acidic stickiness all over America’s floor."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

lol it's fucking Mike Matusow

― frogbs, Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:46 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

who's that?

if it's a poker pro i'm just gonna assume it's some dickhead wearing a baseball hat and wraparound shades indoors

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

ty for the lols Jon

he mea ole, he kanaka lapuwale (sciatica), Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

He's the biggest douchebag of them all xp

Mordy, Thursday, 29 September 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

Mike "The Mouth" Matusow, known for being a notorious shit talker and generally not very-good poker player

Probably most well-known for getting owned by Greg Raymer in 2005

Still gets lots of TV time because he's kind of a wildcard and is legitimately fun to watch. I remember watching him online from time to time and he would get tilted incredibly easily.

frogbs, Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

Breaking: POKER PRO GETS FREE PUBLICITY FOR CHALLOP

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

PROFESSIONAL POKER NOW A THING AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE W ADMINISTRATION

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

Has Kenny fucking Rogers weighed in yet

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

What he’s doing is trying to establish dominance — to win, in his words. That’s what he uses words for. That’s how he sees every interaction in which he is involved. He is attuned only to what the words are doing, whether they are winning or losing, not to what they mean.

thrasymachus/pence 2016

j., Thursday, 29 September 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link

So Trump camp was already rumbling about the Cuba story and...

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/781607229241823233

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

it's interesting to see these different news outlets not really covering or even referencing each other's stories (NYT doesn't mention WaPo, neither mentions Newsweek bombshell) - idk if this is different from how these stories might have broken/been covered in the past, but the professional territoriality seems diminish the overall impact of the various Trump scandals. Seems like the most we can expect is something like the above - a NYT staff tweeting about a Newsweek story

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

Huh? He's the guy who wrote the story! And he works at both spots.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

lol sorry misread his twitter bio

I guess NYT won't be mentioning this at all then!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

seems like Trump's going to have a number of criminal proceedings against him after the election

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

This was just posted on FB by someone I've known since the second grade. He has a PhD in mechanical engineering, and his wife is both African-American (he's white btw) and a doctor. This election has made people dumb.

Hillary has chosen the new face of the Democratic Party and the choice couldn't be more appropriate: a judge-threatening, public-fornicating trainwreck who had a Mexican drug lord's anchor baby in Miami. If that doesn't say Democrat I don't know what does.

Also, Donald Trump is the Guy Fieri of politics. See, I'm fair and balanced like Fox News.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

is that supposed to refer to miss universe

j., Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah, "Guy Fieri" is that hard-hitting bodying of Trump that balances out what he said about the Democratic Party

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:31 (seven years ago) link

public fornicating

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link

i love it when I go to the ball pit at McDonald's and people are fornicating in it

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

I would've appreciated it if he could have thrown a "strumpet" or "hussy" in there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

as a lifelong Democrat, I spend the majority of my days publicly fornicating with Mexican drug lords while threatening judges

Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

I fornicate with judges and threaten anchors

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

news anchors, specifically

Neanderthal, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link


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