I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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Was just thinking... one of the funniest things about Trump is how he lies about verifiable public info (I never said china invented global warming) but admits to stuff that isn't (I don't pay taxes because I'm smart). such an amazing self own

flopson, Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

<i>I'm trying to think of a single public figure as profoundly stupid as Trump who doesn't have some commensurate opposing quality</i>

Noxious, narcissistic, sociopathic bully, but he's OUR noxious, narcissistic, sociopathic bully. I suspect one doesn't have stray far from schoolyard psychology to understand the appeal for many of his supporters. They're the ones who thought mocking the current victim would spare the same fate for themselves.

Institute for Secular Eschatology (Sanpaku), Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

http://www.deepfocusreview.com/reviews/images/deadzone3.jpg

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:44 (seven years ago) link

Well I mean...also a lot of it at this point has to be fear of essentially being exposed for having fallen for the con. It would be impossible to admit that they're wrong, so they have to go all in.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 October 2016 03:54 (seven years ago) link

that would account for a chunk of his supporters, as would Sanpaku's theory, but you can't discount the faction of his base that blindly follow him and don't even see contradictions. our 7/11 sells lots of Hillary/Trump products side by side (including, weirdly, a hot sauce), but there was also this set of talking pens (or something). this guy behind me walked up to the counter and sees Trump's pen and is like "Ahh, that's my man", and then sees the Hillary pen and tells the employee "press the button! I bet she says 'I'm a liar!'", and looks around, like he expects everyone obviously agrees with him.

Trump's lies aren't even like, deceptive spin, they're these voluminous digests of obvious fabrications that any pencil-dick could find out in minutes via a simple Google search, but he has succeeded in selling to his base the idea of the media as this evil, mustache twirling monolithic entity which means all the facts that prove he is lying have been completely made up! Someone hacked his account and made up that China tweet and then screencapped it in anticipation he would delete it!

His base is also full of people who say things like "Snopes has liberal bias, ergo every thing they post is flawed and wrong".

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:11 (seven years ago) link

they also believe in "no go" zones in Detroit, Michigan that are under Sharia law.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link

xxp is that "No Future for Stillson"/Dead Zone picture a Trump related meme anywhere outside of ilx? I keep thinking about it every time he does a new appalling thing.

soref, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:13 (seven years ago) link

haha i've never been much moved by omg-what-happened-to-the-cronkite-consensus-on-reality laments (too young) but if snopes has lost its authority i really do feel the chill of the void

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:15 (seven years ago) link

which is, of course, funny considering how much time Snopes also expends debunking stupid Liberal myths (like the one that the footage of people celebrating in the street in Palestine on 9/11 was actually footage from 1991).

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:30 (seven years ago) link

Trump base are ride or die so the lies don't really matter, to them, imo

flopson, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:38 (seven years ago) link

ya know I didn't realize until today when I was poking around youtube that trump was on WWE so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vJN3st5T4

los blue jeans, Saturday, 1 October 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link

Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may check out sex tape

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 October 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link

there are those who really don't understand: what is the great issue between the free world and the communist world? let them check out sex tape.

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 06:14 (seven years ago) link

“Unfortunately, we have a party made up of a bunch of people who get frightened very easily,

you've spent decades scaring them into voting for you, rudy, you reap what you sow

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Saturday, 1 October 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link

We welcome change and openness(Check out sex tape!); for we believe that freedom and security go together(Check out sex tape!), that the advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace.(Check out sex tape!) There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable(Check out sex tape!), that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace.(Check out sex tape!) General Secretary Gorbachev(Check out sex tape!), if you seek peace(Check out sex tape!), if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe(Check out sex tape!), if you seek liberalization(Check out sex tape!), come here to this gate.(Check out sex tape!) Mr. Gorbachev(Check out sex tape!), open this gate.(Check out sex tape!) Mr. Gorbachev(Check out sex tape!), tear down this wall! (Check out sex tape!)

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 October 2016 07:21 (seven years ago) link

you are pitiful, isolated individuals! you are bankrupts! your role is played out. go where you belong from now on -- to check out sex tape!

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 07:58 (seven years ago) link

We choose to go to the Moon! We choose to go to the Moon this decade and check out sex tape!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link

Meantime:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/donald-trump-club-for-growth-214278

As Trump’s candidacy grew more serious, The Club’s donors became more alarmed. Warren Stephens, the banker (and aspirational prog-rocker), pointed a reporter to a song he’d written for his band Rayburn about “certain political types.” Sample lyric: “You call your own shots/Breakin’ every law/Burning down what our fathers built.”

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 October 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

you sure it wasn't Scarborough who wrote that song

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

I sure hope Trump tries to speak in outdated UK slang or whatever.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

We had this one bird - absolutely terrible - her bottom was big-league.

how's life, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

"So as a friend of mine said the other day, I am occupying from the center-left to the center-right. And I don’t have much company there."

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/30/hillary-clinton-center-right/

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link

you have lotsa companies there tho amirite, Thrill

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

"The crooked media, they....they continue to bubble around me, but I haven't got the morbs. The meaters at Washington Post aren't afternoonified or bricky enough to give me the fair coverage I deserve."

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Got%20the%20morbs

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

I mean have you SEEN the newsie wewsies lately? It's terrible....terrible. Their ratings are bad, nobody's watching so they make up these really mean stories about blood sausages.... And I mean believe me, my blood sausages are delicious, the best, you've never seen anything like them, these big bottom birds are enjoying them all over Europe, it's incredible

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

that's for true

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

Check out the sex tape, she cops a stunner in it.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

Is it true she doffs her kit?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

finally, someone standing up for what britain really needs: a wall around the falklands

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

and make the Welsh pay for it! what the heck have they done for anybody lately? suspiciously silent from the world stage...

scott seward, Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

I mean have you SEEN the newsie wewsies lately? It's terrible....terrible. Their ratings are bad, nobody's watching so they make up these really mean stories about blood sausages.... And I mean believe me, my blood sausages are delicious, the best, you've never seen anything like them, these big bottom birds are enjoying them all over Europe, it's incredible

JUST FYI WE BRITISHES CALL BLOOD SAUSAGE "BLACK PUDDING" OKAY?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

easy mate, don't throw a wobbly

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

This whole mess makes me want to hide under my eiderdown

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

skip fire

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

This whole mess makes me want to hide under my eiderdown

Without a top sheet even

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

Oi stevie take it up with whiney m8

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/66115999.jpg

Mädchester Amick (wins), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

^ Gorblimey, would you Adam and Eve it, are you 'avin a tin bath, darlin'? Gertcha!

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

"So as a friend of mine said the other day, I am occupying from the center-left to the center-right. And I don’t have much company there."

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/30/hillary-clinton-center-right/

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius),

oh cool so she's center-left like FDR and LBJ

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i think she means more Scoop Jackson

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

isnt the average of center-left and center-right center-center? so Evan Bayh and Robert Rubin, i guess

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

re: the Trumpettes, I thought the plastic in the surgery was supposed to go on the inside?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Scoop Jackson as president would've been better than Nixon, Ford, or Ronnie and would've delayed the start of some neocon insurgency -- if they'd would've formed in the first place. The not-so-secret thing to know about neocons is that until Bush II they needed political exile to thrive.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

btw I know you think as usual this is some sort of gotcha moment, but the full remarks (even without audio!) are not unsympathetic:

“They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement,” Clinton says in the audio clip, first published by the Washington Free Beacon earlier this week. “They feel that they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future.

“That is a mindset that is really affecting their politics,” she noted, speaking to donors at a private event in McLean, Virginia. “If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have much of a ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe -- just maybe -- you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

and her unspoken finish is "....the poor blinkered souls."

it sounds like her equiv of 'clinging to guns and religion'

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

that's the difference

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link


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