I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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that's for true

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

Check out the sex tape, she cops a stunner in it.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

Is it true she doffs her kit?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

finally, someone standing up for what britain really needs: a wall around the falklands

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

and make the Welsh pay for it! what the heck have they done for anybody lately? suspiciously silent from the world stage...

scott seward, Saturday, 1 October 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

I mean have you SEEN the newsie wewsies lately? It's terrible....terrible. Their ratings are bad, nobody's watching so they make up these really mean stories about blood sausages.... And I mean believe me, my blood sausages are delicious, the best, you've never seen anything like them, these big bottom birds are enjoying them all over Europe, it's incredible

JUST FYI WE BRITISHES CALL BLOOD SAUSAGE "BLACK PUDDING" OKAY?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

easy mate, don't throw a wobbly

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

This whole mess makes me want to hide under my eiderdown

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

skip fire

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

This whole mess makes me want to hide under my eiderdown

Without a top sheet even

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

Oi stevie take it up with whiney m8

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/66115999.jpg

Mädchester Amick (wins), Saturday, 1 October 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

^ Gorblimey, would you Adam and Eve it, are you 'avin a tin bath, darlin'? Gertcha!

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

"So as a friend of mine said the other day, I am occupying from the center-left to the center-right. And I don’t have much company there."

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/30/hillary-clinton-center-right/

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius),

oh cool so she's center-left like FDR and LBJ

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i think she means more Scoop Jackson

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

isnt the average of center-left and center-right center-center? so Evan Bayh and Robert Rubin, i guess

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

re: the Trumpettes, I thought the plastic in the surgery was supposed to go on the inside?

A bear made of Tetris blocks (stevie), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Scoop Jackson as president would've been better than Nixon, Ford, or Ronnie and would've delayed the start of some neocon insurgency -- if they'd would've formed in the first place. The not-so-secret thing to know about neocons is that until Bush II they needed political exile to thrive.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

btw I know you think as usual this is some sort of gotcha moment, but the full remarks (even without audio!) are not unsympathetic:

“They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement,” Clinton says in the audio clip, first published by the Washington Free Beacon earlier this week. “They feel that they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future.

“That is a mindset that is really affecting their politics,” she noted, speaking to donors at a private event in McLean, Virginia. “If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have much of a ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe -- just maybe -- you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

and her unspoken finish is "....the poor blinkered souls."

it sounds like her equiv of 'clinging to guns and religion'

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link

that's the difference

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

but also I wasn't one of those people crowing about the Romney gotcha moment in 2012 either. You say what it's required when you're shaking your hat.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not a big fan or anything but I don't see her saying much in that 'leak' that she hasn't openly stated in any debate with Sanders.
3xp

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

her stump boilerplate includes "no one has fought harder for progressive causes than I have"

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

and we all come back to that anonymous Wall St exec quote about understanding how she has to parrot Sanders to get elected, it's OK

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

I mean,

"We're not England. we're not France," she said Thursday. "We inherited a system of employer-provided insurance that was set up during World War II. So what we have tried to do is to build on the healthcare system we have."

Secretary Clinton, last night you cited the Concord Monitor when you said of Senator Sanders that, quote, "It's very hard to see how any of his proposals could ever be achievable." So please tell us why you think if he's elected president on a platform of promising things like free public college and universal healthcare, that he cannot achieve those things.

CLINTON
I want to build on the progress we've made; got from 90 percent coverage to 100 percent coverage. And I don't want to rip away the security that people finally have; 18 million people now have healthcare; preexisting conditions are no longer a bar. So we have a difference...

I also believe in affordable college, but I don't believe in free college, because every expert that I have talked to says, look, how will you ever control the costs. What I want to do is make sure middle class kids, not Donald Trump's kids, get to be able to afford college. I

And of course, I believe in raising the minimum wage and equal pay for work. But the numbers just don't add up, from what Senator Sanders has been proposing. That's why all of the independent experts, all of the editorial boards that have vetted both of us have concluded that it is just not achievable.

Let's go down a path where we can actually tell people what we will do. A progressive is someone who makes progress. That's what I intend to do.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

wait a politician on the stump is being hyperbolic about their record to appeal to the party base? get the times on the horn.

Clay, Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

yeah, They All Lie, i know

(we can call it LIES, right)

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Not statistically significant but LOL:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/donald-trump-polls-0-in-detroit-wdivdetroit-news-survey-finds

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 1 October 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

My kinda poll.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 October 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Fartz

Neanderthal, Saturday, 1 October 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

I also believe in affordable college, but I don't believe in free college, because every expert that I have talked to says, look, how will you ever control the costs

was this not the argument for universal aka 'free' health care

j., Saturday, 1 October 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

You control the costs the way you would with any gov't program, the DOD has whole schools about how to manage this. So frustrating.

los blue jeans, Saturday, 1 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

isnt the basic idea that if the fed gov has monopsony power, they are price makers bc doctors/universities/whatever wont get paid unless they comply with fed policy?

6 god none the richer (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

where are the leaks of Sanders speaking with bifurcated tongue at fundraisers

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

check youtube

6 god none the richer (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

yeah, They All Lie, i know

(we can call it LIES, right)

― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:54 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, even your beloved Saint Jill Stein does it.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

As do you. As does everyone.

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

not me

6 god none the richer (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

^ lie

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

my truth will set u free

6 god none the richer (m bison), Saturday, 1 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

i do find hillary's "they don't even know what that means" pretty lol. it means they don't have to pay for college or the doctor. i think they follow that, poor wonkless souls tho they are. a pleasantly nostalgic reminder of occupy days of "we want financial regulation, money out of politics, serious action on climate change, some sort of accountability for the architects of the briefly collapsed kleptocracy and free college" "what do these people WANT? why won't they SAY? why are they so IRRATIONAL?"

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 October 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

Question for a n00b: is affordable college something to be gained exclusively via a presidential election and congress? or any pressure on state level politics could work as well?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 October 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link

I believe m bison, buffalo are noble, honest creatures

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 October 2016 23:46 (seven years ago) link

"“Here comes Big Daddy,” she said, clapping. “The Donald. Big Daddy.”"

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 October 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

All very John Waters, somehow.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 October 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

The most depressing thing I've read this season.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 2 October 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link


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