I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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"And I have to deal with this against-charity attorney general -- and, I mean, do you think he got orders to do this from Crooked Hillary? Probably, I don't know. I don't know. Someone should look into it."

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

more here http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/04/us/politics/trump-foundation-money.html

“While we remain very concerned about the political motives behind A.G. Schneiderman’s investigation, the Trump Foundation nevertheless intends to cooperate fully with the investigation,” Hope Hicks, Mr. Trump’s spokeswoman, said on Monday. “Because this is an ongoing legal matter, the Trump Foundation will not comment further at this time.”

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:11 (seven years ago) link

has anyone watched the PBS frontline thing about them both? https://twitter.com/Bro_Pair/status/782991753930481665

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

feel like hillary's opposition to citizen's united is probably pretty sincere considering the context of the case

Mordy, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

First off, watch it. @frontlinepbs is such a great TV series, this is fantastically well done and informative.
I honestly do not know who has had a more psychologically hellish life, Trump or Hillary. But these are two incredibly pained personalities.
Hillary, in particular, is a shockingly sympathetic character. She was not born a monstrous political personality. She's a tragic figure.
Also, I absolutely cannot vote for Hillary. That documentary is a testament to the fact that neither candidate should ever gain power.
Hillary's personal pain cannot excuse the fact that her administration will feel like one of those sclerotic early 80s Russian governments.
Trump, of course, is mentally ill & who knows, maybe he'll nuke the world, so, no real judgment from me if you're with her in a swing state

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

i don't necessarily follow everything his office does but almost any time i see eric schniedermann's name in the news i want to pump my fist, that dude seems like a great guy

k3vin k., Monday, 3 October 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Hmmm. Interesting side light to think of HRC as the nascent Yuri Andropov of US politics.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

“While we remain very concerned about the political motives behind A.G. Schneiderman’s investigation into an obvious and most likely deliberate case of perpetual fraud by someone whose illusory perception of his own wealth should put him above such petty things as human law, the Trump Foundation nevertheless intends to cooperate fully with the investigation while Mr. Trump himself will be losing the last of his marbles as he screams about the injustice of it all on social media,” Hope Hicks, Mr. Trump’s spokeswoman, said on Monday.

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

I don't think that particular bit is gonna have legs, unfortunately. I mean he's already pissed all over the military as much as he can, what's a few more buckets gonna matter.

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Lol at the AG being politically motivated to enforce known charity laws. Even if politics motivated him pulling out his microscope, is Trump gonna blame him for his non-compliance?

Like this is the life of a politician man. Maybe you shoulda run for Comptroller first.

Neanderthal, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

Xpost none of these things are going to be campaign enders by themselves no. But at least may sway some low info voters into flipping or staying home.

At this point he will probably rebound two weeks from now due to reversion to mean and we'll play out this soap opera one more time before E.D.

Neanderthal, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Like this is the life of a politician man. Maybe you shoulda run for Comptroller first.

― Neanderthal, Monday, October 3, 2016 12:33 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just another signpost of Trump's five-year-old "I wanna be a pwesident!" mentality. He doesn't have the level of cognition to process that, if anything, he's been subject to LESS scrutiny than most presidential candidates. It's just big meanies being unfair and not letting him play pretend!

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

c'mon he put his big boy suit on and everything!

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

That documentary is a testament to the fact that neither candidate should ever gain power.

I've said this before, but: No one who wants to be president should ever be allowed within a hundred miles of power. Electoral politics is pure sociopath-bait. Political offices should be awarded by random drawing. And unpaid.

That said, I'm voting for Clinton and am confident she'll be a good president, despite having an army of right-wing shitbags lining up to stop anything she tries to accomplish, and a horde of posturing internet "leftists" ready to piss on anything she does actually manage to get done.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

The most beautiful part of this is that his own actions (including, certainly, the decision to run for president) have opened him up to more intense scrutiny than he'd apparently received for decades. He likely could've continued his lifelong grift straight into the grave if he'd remained nothing more than a loudmouthed 'businessman', but something tells me his life after losing the election is going to be pretty unfun.

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

at this point I am inclined to believe Omarosa's argument that the main reason Trump is doing this is payback against/attempt to humiliate Obama for the correspondent's dinner. it's all just pure ego with this moron.

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

誤訳侮辱, do you have any cute names for the shitbags who'll be in her Cabinet?

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

At this point he will probably rebound two weeks from now due to reversion to mean and we'll play out this soap opera one more time before E.D.

― Neanderthal, Monday, October 3, 2016 1:35 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Please no I had so much anxiety leading up to the debate I don't want to be subjected to that whole "Trump May Actually Win This" cycle again.

Evan, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Trump's got this - as soon as his hail mary from the australian hacker rapist comes through any second now

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

I say once again, with more certainty than at any point since he won the GOP nomination: Donald Trump will never be POTUS.

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, can't wait until the Assange bombshell drops. Or, rather, doesn't because of 'security concerns'.

If it's such a lid-blower, why wait or be cowed by concerns you were never cowed by previously?

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

wait, wasn't "Hillary tried to drone me" the bombshell??

frogbs, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link

Wait, is that supposed to be controversial? Because I'd vote for Clinton so hardcore if she vowed to make that her first act in office.

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

(Not advocating droning in general, just specifically the droning of Assange. Would also accept melting or exsanguination.)

Our Salads Are Now Almost Entirely Blood-Free! (Old Lunch), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link

he hasn't done anything worthy of the death penalty and I prefer the rule of law and everything but... yeah I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. he's scum of the earth, not a US citizen, and repeatedly demonstrated his status as a risk to US nat'l security

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Hillary's personal pain cannot excuse the fact that her administration will feel like one of those sclerotic early 80s Russian governments.

i feel like there isn't a single white male twitter leftist or really almost any white human of any political persuasion who can say with a straight face that he'll be "oppressed" in a fashion comparable to any USSR administration under hilldog, but that's not really gonna stop proclaimed likely jill stein voter bro pair, because after all an accurate statement like "it'll be moderate, prob too much so, and we should aim to elect congresspeople and local leaders who'll be more progressive whenever possible but hey it's not the potential fascist apocalypse" doesn't up yr klout score

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

re: the "hillary wanted to drone assange" thing i saw more than a few people on my twitter feed this morning who took that completely at face value, which was kinda hilarious because again, of all the ppl being killed in such a fashion (which i'm 100 percent not endorsing) a rapist white troll who won't leave his hotel room for fear of indictment is not one of them, lol c'mon

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

It's cool that we have leftists comparing Hillary to Andropov and Chernenko.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

well she is sick all the time

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

adding "stupidly literal-minded" to ILXpundit attributes

oh whoops added that in 2007

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

At this point he will probably rebound two weeks from now due to reversion to mean and we'll play out this soap opera one more time before E.D.

Presume that stands for electile dysfunction har har

re Andropov I think "Silver Spoons" had an episode where Ricky Schroeder is on a class trip to the White House, somehow ends up answering the Red Phone, and tells the then-Soviet leader to "Walk to the edge of a cliff, Yuri.... Andropov!"

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

Where is Assange in the world where a drone strike makes any sense? Would it be like a little Amazon drone with a pistol taped to it following him nonchalant through the market, pretending to look at apples when he senses that he is being followed and turns around anxiously? Maybe "drone strike" is just code for Hillary calling him up to have a long talk about emails and policies.

Evan, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

Michael Reagan tweeted that Nancy woulda voted for HRC btw. Kumbaya!

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

Michael loathes Nancy

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

He might as well have said, "Nancy was having sex with Barbara Bush on the White House china."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Mmmm

Neanderthal, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Chi-nuh

Evan, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

誤訳侮辱, do you have any cute names for the shitbags who'll be in her Cabinet?

aren't cute/unfunny names for politicians more your bag?

Robby Mook (stevie), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

ok, i'll go with "stevies"

prob too funny tho

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

lol at this golf swing https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/782984294557941760

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 3 October 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

@JessicaTaylor
Ron Paul on MSNBC says Gary Johnson isn't a true libertarian, will likely vote for Jill Stein instead.

mookieproof, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

imagine if bill clinton said, 'if chelsea weren't my daughter, perhaps i'd be dating her'

mookieproof, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

A reminder that drone strikes are only surgical compared to carpet bombing - other people (okay, including friends of friends of mine) work in the Ecuadorean Embassy so I'd rather not.

In other news, Trump's 5-D chess set still missing some pieces.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-clinton-audio-supporters_us_57f11290e4b024a52d2f6852

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

is it wrong to feel sort of uncomfortable wrt all of the lol-ing and/or concern trolling over creepy things Trump has said about Ivanka? it seems kind of like Ivanka is collateral damage when ppl use this stuff to attack her father?

soref, Monday, 3 October 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

I imagine she's p damaged alright

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 October 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

She's collateral damage in the human shield sense.

dinnerboat, Monday, 3 October 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link


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