I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

he's such a charlatan

ahahahah that Assange announcement

it was literally nothing

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 4, 2016 9:14 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was a press co turned fundraiser.

he reminds me of anonymous sometimes

bombastic empty threats etc

I do totally believe him that he's going to be publishing something once a week leading up to the election. That nebulous and value-free threshold should be easy to cross.

It's also quite stupid. If he had something so important as to turn the tides of the election he would bring it out on it's own, not as one part of a ten week drip of nonsense.

Have we talked about this? Another wrinkle in the Trump Foundation story: it appears Trump may have had donations issued from the Trump Foundation to conservative groups he was personally courting as far back as 2011.

“It was a quiet donation that came with a simple cover letter,” Smith said. It read: “Great meeting with you and your wife in my office,” dated May 6, 2011. Enclosed was a check for $10,000 from the Donald J. Trump Foundation.

That check is one of at least several donations to suggest Trump used his private foundation, funded by outside donors, to launch and fuel his political ambitions. Such contributions, if they were made solely for Trump’s benefit, could violate federal self-dealing laws for private foundations.

From 2011 through 2014, Trump harnessed his eponymous foundation to send at least $286,000 to influential conservative or policy groups, a RealClearPolitics review of the foundation’s tax filings found. In many cases, this flow of money corresponded to prime speaking slots or endorsements that aided Trump as he sought to recast himself as a plausible Republican candidate for president. (...)

Multiple Trump campaign aides did not respond to requests for comment.

Man, maybe it's just hindsight talking, but it's hard for me to imagine feeling comfortable cashing a check from a Trump-fronted charity. Red flags and alarm bells and shit.

TBF, if Trump thinks he is the only one qualified to save the country, then maybe he thought funding his political ambitious via his foundation *was* being charitable.

Serious question, if Trump loses, will he share his secret plan for defeating ISIS with Hillary Clinton for the good of the nation

Alex Jones called Julian Assange a 'Hillary buttplug'. I really shouldn't feel so much schadenfreude, but lol.

xpost Well, it wouldn't be a secret, then, would it? And could he really trust her not to blab its details to ISIS?

xxpost Certainly. I mean, we may not agree with his vision, but he's ultimately running for president because he genuinely cares about the country and wants to see it thrive. He'll no doubt feel chagrined about losing in the immediate aftermath of the election, but I have confidence that he'll put his baser feelings aside and share his ideas with President Clinton for the greater good of the country.

Or, no, sorry, he'll probably just stand outside of the White House gates with both middle fingers extended, shouting "WRONG. WRONG. WRUUUUUUUNG." until he's lost his voice completely.

Maybe Trump will move to Canada!

UKIP will probably need a new leader by then.

hah, the first thing I thought of when I saw that link Doctor Casino just posted was The Family Leader (barf) and sure enough, it's a main point of the article

There is absolutely no reason Trump would give any of these organizations money unless he was courting their support in the presidential race. Am I supposed to think he was traveling around and was so enamored with this group of religious conservative dickheads in northwest Iowa that he decided his foundation should cut them a donation? Pretty sure his lifestyle directly conflicts with about 2/3rds of the shit they say.

I'm suddenly remembering a number of months ago, when I jokingly predicted that Trump's presidential run and the basketing-up of undesirables was just an extended sales pitch for condos in some remote underground bunker city every sensible American would wanna move to in the event of a Clinton presidency, and the degree of cunning and planning and forethought involved in even an idea that dumb now seems so far beyond anything Trump is capable of. But I guess if Trump has demonstrated one consistent facility, it's in convincing others to overestimate him as anything more than a reactive, leathery, sociopathic void with basically no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

His lifestyle directly conflicts with giving people money just because they agree with him.

The illegal donations hardly seem worth it when he could donate the money himself. Given the size of Trump's fortune, the foundation is pocket change. I wonder if he just gets a kick out of skirting laws here and there.

They don't need an underground bunker. A lot of this support is from areas that are already remote, have lost industry, and anyone living there already thinks that they're in the real America. Or they're in suburbs and feel closely allied with rural areas and feel like there's something inherently wrong with urban life.

I can't remember which republican leaders said it, but there was a conversation leaked a few years ago that was basically "fuck em if they can't figure out how to move" about people living in rural areas that have had serious issues with economic blight.

Given the size of Trump's fortune, the foundation is pocket change.

Or.. is it?

I mean the "foundation" is mostly a way to take donations from group A and then give them to group B so that they'll pay attention to you.

Given the size of Trump's fortune

Assumes facts not in evidence, as they say.

is "size" another dick joke

I don't know how he could hold on to that much wealth, his hands are just too small

The illegal donations hardly seem worth it when he could donate the money himself. Given the size of Trump's fortune, the foundation is pocket change. I wonder if he just gets a kick out of skirting laws here and there.

need I remind you Trump once cashed a 16 cent check

i'm having trouble mustering the enthusiasm to keep track of trump's latest controversies and scandals

long before he got the nomination, it was clear that he is on the racist sexist nationalist shortlist shitlist. anyone who, having heard even once about his immigration plans or observed how he treats women, considered voting for him is a complete piece of shit. there's no way around it.

but for some voters, apparently, what will finally drive them away is that he's not actually a good businessman? i'm glad someone out there is doing the work to expose his financial failings, i guess, but that is the distant foul smell from another room compared to the bloody watery pile of t-rex shit with visibly decaying gums and teeth on your new bedspread of his failings as a human being

"i thought i was gonna vote for trump, but did you see that he didn't pay taxes? i don't know, i guess i won't now!!"

^fuck the 2-5% of people who end up using that rationale

also

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/2016/03/08/donald-trump-and-the-empty-jewelry-box-tax-scam/#1dc468086aa7

Back in 1986 and likely for many years before, Donald Trump colluded in tax evasion with Bulgari Jewelry Store in New York, a high-end posh location with tony clientele right out of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. Here’s how the scam worked:

Trump would go into the store with his wife, his girlfriend, his…whatever (to use his vernacular). He would then buy her an expensive necklace or wristwatch. Normally, such a transaction would face the New York city and state sales tax, which would be pretty high on luxury jewelry.

In an illegal attempt to evade the tax, Trump “asked” the store to instead ship the jewelry to an out of state location, where no New York sales tax could be collected. In fact, the store would merely send an empty jewelry box to the location, while Trump and his lady friends walked out the door with the jewelry that very day.

The state and city tax collectors eventually caught onto this scheme, and Trump promptly testified against his erstwhile tax evasion colluding partners at the jewelry store in order to save his own skin.

idk about 'wishing death upon' but kerry took a lot of shit for things like 'speaking french' and 'earning three purple hearts/silver star/bronze star' and 'windsurfing'

need I remind you Trump once cashed a 16 cent check

he just didn't want the writer's account balance to get out of whack

I don't think it will be 2-5% of people, it will be essentially nobody

xp

you can be a racist, AND a misogynist, AND a pathological liar but if you're bad at capitalism.... that's a bridge too far

xp

Gift horse dentistry lads

@tinyrevolution
What Christie & Giuliani demonstrate is that for hateful right-wing authoritarians, the next best thing to giving orders is taking orders

these revelations aren't geared towards the people who made their minds up ago, though, they're geared at the voters who base their decisions on who to vote for (or whether to vote) based on the candidate's fashion sense or whether they could have a beer with them. the undecided figure is still quite high....

*a long time ago

The NY Times revisits the shaming of Bubba's women. I had forgotten the name of the Clintonista who'd coined "bimbo eruptions": Betsey Wright.

Gloria Allred, a well-known women’s rights lawyer who was a convention delegate for Mrs. Clinton, said that digging up a woman’s sexual past was a classic shaming strategy.

“Most people are not nuns, and most people aren’t Girl Scouts,” Ms. Allred said. “That doesn’t mean they’re not telling the truth.”

Told of Mrs. Clinton’s support for hiring Mr. Palladino, she said, “If Hillary signed off on a private investigator, let’s call it a minus.” But she added, “It wouldn’t change my support for her because there are so many pluses for her, like her stance on abortion.”

“I’d like to hear from Hillary Clinton on the role she played.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/03/us/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-women.html?_r=0

“I’d like to hear from Hillary Clinton on the role she played.”

No one gives a shit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct7ylZJWEAAo6qv.jpg

-- trump in vanity fair, 1994

but sure, let's ask hillary what role she played in her husband's affairs

“Can you imagine if, no matter who won, I still felt like an equal member of society and comfortable in my own skin? That would be amazing. It’s kind of fun to imagine.”

http://www.theonion.com/article/nations-women-fantasize-about-some-future-election-54083

let's ask hillary what role she played in trashing women who accused her husband of rape, those whores

you can do that and dig around in Trump's muck

trump trying to make bill clinton an issue is going to a. happen b. backfire horribly

I'm pretty excited for it honestly

like the worst thing he can do is turn Hillary Clinton into a sympathetic figure which he already did in debate one by constantly shouting over her

shhh! it's a secret plan!

Try putting yourself in her place. During the 1992 campaign, the mainstream press attends closely to the issue of “bimbo eruptions” while the super market tabloids cover the story of your husband’s supposed black progeny and Gennifer Flowers discusses his sexual prowess in a magazine with a circulation considerably larger than this one’s. Months after you become First Lady, you spend two weeks with your dying father, and television reporters stake out the hospital, turning a personal crisis into another media spectacle; a prominent political commentator calls colleagues to spread the rumor that you’ve been spotted in the White House making love with a female veterinarian; you appear on “20/20” to find yourself closely interrogated about whether you hurled a lamp, or possibly a Bible, at your husband; a best selling roman à clef depicts the steely wife of a Clintonian candidate enjoying a one-night stand with a campaign aide. And that’s just a sampler. Wouldn’t you be entitled to wonder why your involve ment in a mammogram initiative that will save many thousands of lives gets scant coverage, while, say, your trading in cattle futures fifteen years ago takes center stage? Hillary Clinton can’t help sounding utterly self-serving when she tells me she’d like people to look at her “and say, you know, what really matters is that for twenty-five years she’s cared about kids and that’s been a consistent theme, and maybe I should learn about that, instead of ‘Omigosh, she’s changed her hairdo again.’ ” But she may well have a point.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1996/02/26/hating-hillary

During the 1992 campaign, the mainstream press attends closely to the issue of “bimbo eruptions” while the super market tabloids cover the story of your husband’s supposed black progeny and Gennifer Flowers discusses his sexual prowess in a magazine with a circulation considerably larger than this one’s.

Wow, so much has changed in 24 years.

"i thought i was gonna vote for trump, but did you see that he didn't pay taxes? i don't know, i guess i won't now!!"

It's not that - it's more "I hadn't made up my mind yet, but I had vaguely thought he was a savvy businessman. Then I heard he lost a quillion dollars and tried to hide it by saying that his taxes are too sophisticated for a rube like me to understand. Wow, I already wasn't sure I could trust him; now he just sounds like an asshole."

d-mac has the right of it.