I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

how can you guys read about this shit every day

xp You're supposed to square that circle by voting for Saint Jill Stein, who, after her election, despite having spent the entire past year expressing contempt for both parties and asserting that there's no significant difference between them except that the Democrats are worse, and despite not having a single member of her own party in Congress, will somehow change the entirety of US society from the ground up by having bills introduced by Magical Legislation Fairies.

i believe the syphilis has reached yr cerebral cortex

no sane person voting for Stein thinks she is going to win the election, assface. That's what "protest" is doing in "protest vote."

Correction, it's doing nothing, because neither of the major parties nor anyone else gives Fuck #1 about your protest vote.

no sane person is voting for Stein

fixed

"Oh well, we lost the 'leftist' votes again, let's keep moving to the center" is what will happen. I'm truly sorry you're too fucking dumb to understand that.

what makes you think i'm voting for president? not voting for Stein.

you're too fucking dumb to understand that the Dems are never changing no matter who YOU vote for.

neither of the major parties nor anyone else gives Fuck #1 about your protest vote.

Seemed to in 2000!

or rather, after

The precarious framework of our nation will be protected only by voting meaningfully against Trump from my paranoid point of view.

come on man, you're old enough to know the entire political landscape is slow-moving but has changed a shitload over time xp

I'm not too happy with where the national system is right now regarding infrastructure and international affairs but that's more an artifact of things slowly shifting being a better tactic than a quick right turn. We did a quick turn 15 years ago and that didn't help so much.

the only time protests votes successfully 'sent a message' was 2000

and the message they sent was 'nader voters are fucking idiots'

were perot votes protest votes

Hil has Dorothy Rabinowitz voting for her in NY; Dot and i swapped votes

xxxp

I almost voted for Nader until I really thought about how close the election was

Joe Lieberman was pretty much my #1 reason for having that stance, though. Still can't stand that guy.

Perot voters sent the message 'Hello we are confused human beings' xp

the "message" you're sending and the effect of your vote obviously is dependent on the state you vote in

xxpost Only when compared to the demon draped in human flesh that we got as VP for eight years do Lieberman or his successor look like anyone you'd want within a million miles of the White House.

the "message" you're sending and the effect of your vote obviously is dependent on the state you vote in

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you know, this is one of those things that should be really obvious by now but I think a surprising percentage of the electorate still doesn't get it

the "message" you're sending and the effect of your vote obviously is dependent on the state you vote in

no even drunk 3rd party voters fail to send a message that anyone cares about

we've had eight years of people pretending Obama is somehow not a US citizen by birth

yet barely anyone noticed that Cheney was a resident of Wyoming really only by mailing address and we elected a pres/vp that lived in the same state which is completely against the rules

I mean, it's pretty much a technicality in that Cheney was really a resident of the great western enron/hunting accident part of the country that happened to encompass multiple states and there's no rule against both candidates being from that

The cumulative effect regardless of state is precisely bupkis. The Libertarian Party has had presidential candidates on the ballot in some or all states since 1972. How's that working out for them?

I think a surprising percentage of the electorate iatee still doesn't get it

It's not about sending a message, it's about voting w/out vo(mi)ting

Any gay man who votes for Clinton after the Reagan/AIDS thing tends toward minstrelsy.

The impact imagined by the 3rd party voter vs. the real-world impact, in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_os80b2K8_s

I looked it up: Gore beat Bush in NY by 25 points. OMG I'M AN EEJIT

I think a (-surprising percentage of the electorate-) iatee still doesn't get it

It's not about sending a message, it's about voting w/out vo(mi)ting

Any gay man who votes for Clinton after the Reagan/AIDS thing tends toward minstrelsy.

you think you aren't morally implicated in everything America does because you simply eschew any real participation in politics. that's a pretty convenient moral system you've built, one that lets you bask in your own virtue while doing nothing.

xp so your Nader vote neither hurt nor helped Gore, Nader, Bush or you, which is the very definition of "bupkis."

like most voting. As G Carlin said, jack off instead.

iatee, you know nothing beyond what i post what i do! Voting is the least ppl do.

what did those Occupy marches we went on accomplish? And the climate change march two autumns ago was the very definition of BUPKIS.

xp whereas adding one's 0.000001% to Gore's margin of victory would define "substance"?

that's true, which is why it's funny how many of your posts on ilx have involved who you're going to vote for, who you did vote for and who you can't vote for, as if the country is dying to find out what morbs' message to the world is this year

xp

Any gay man who votes for Clinton after the Reagan/AIDS thing tends toward minstrelsy.

hey I'll do Al Jolson if it keeps any post-Palin/Freedom Caucus imbecile from winning Miami-Dade County.

rubberstamping dronemaggedon sends a message too folks

what did those Occupy marches we went on accomplish? .

Guess you didn't read Sanders or HRC's platforms eh. But you'll say "platforms mean shit" because you must be right at all times

Sanders platform is especially moot!

i'm sure HRC holds hers close to her heart.

xp whereas adding one's 0.000001% to Gore's margin of victory would define "substance"?

had gore lost the popular vote because a bunch of California and New York voters were 'sending messages', bush's victory wouldn't have looked nearly as illegitimate.

bush's election wouldn't be considered illegitimate

Er phone posting weirdness

What heinous crime did you poor wretched souls commit to be trapped in this time loop?

many of your posts on ilx have involved who you're going to vote for, who you did vote for and who you can't vote for

in recent years, almost always in response to others, cuz it means JACKSHIT yet i somehow can't stop voting, which wd be my #1 preference.

but now, goodbye. fuck me.

No don't leave please come back please

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(Exits, pursued by Kissinger)

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if gore had lost the popular vote, bush's victory could only have been considered legitimate, because what else could define legitimacy? and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a trolley.

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but now, goodbye. fuck me.

is this going to be the title for the next thread

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