I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

pence has a silky smooth voice. obv super hatable but i can see why some voters like him.

not really a fan of elaine quijano's questions, she's pretty stiff and many of these have dumb phrasing

Icy. satanic. maybe he's born with it.

Pence also knows that shaking his head "no" as Kaine lists off indisputable truths about terrible things Trump has said is a way to fool a ton of people through body language while avoiding getting fact checked.

Kaine, in contrast, subtly nods his head even as Pence spews lies

pence praising trump talking about "the cyber"

really need to invoke the "podium flip"

so should i turn this back on? almost done with my article

well maybe they'll run Pence in 2020 if Cruz gets murdered by someone in his immediate family

what is aleppo?

lol

Kaine's acting like vice presidential candidate; Pence like a presidential candidate.

Luckily I doubt many people are watching because it's relatively boring

xxxxpost his dad?

Why do these people think Hillary is responsible for everything that has happened in the world over the past 8-30 years

I'm just gonna leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbFS8Fet0MI

They blame her on outcomes moreso than even her actual actions

Xpost to treeship

Because Hillary is a reptilian

Kaine seems so yappy and agitated

Kaine hitting Trump's tax avoidance on 9/11 grounds, lol

"This is important, Elaine." That was bad.

yeaaaa

welp that does it, voting for Trump

wow an actual question on some Pence fluff

REAGAN

just tuned in, this debate sucks ass

why do we even have vice presidents, so shitty

so like what's the deal america is back on 'let's rebuild our army and reinvade the middle east'? how can this argument (which is essentially the bulk of pence's policies) possibly be a winner w/ the public?

This is a disaster for Kaine. Pence is killing it.

Is it really that clear to you? I agree Kaine isn't looking fantastic

on style pence is winning but i don't believe he is arguing on behalf of a winning argument.

lmao at cotton hill picture

a draw is p much ok for this debate, even a weak loss. nobody gaf about it. might quell the Trump noise for 5 minutes but I'm sure Donald will livetweet something embarrassing about a minority or the size of his dick before Pence even gets to take his mic off

my god pence is str8 out of central casting for generic white dude president

"I'm just saying facts" in response to "insult. driven. campaign," - about time, but tossed away

on style pence is winning but i don't believe he is arguing on behalf of a winning argument.

― Mordy, Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:10 PM (fifty seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea i agree. i think pence is prob winning this as it's happening but kaine repeatedly reminding everyone about how shitty trump is still the better thing to do in the context of the whole campaign

Content doesn't matter. Kaine is a nervous wreck

reminding everyone about how shitty trump is still the better thing to do in the context of the whole campaign

Pence bragging about how big and strong and rich America is, 40 minutes after being incredulous that Kaine didn't think America was a festering pile of shit

Kaine doesn't seem nervous to me just too snappy

yea

lol "That is absolutely inarg -- inaccurate." Freudian Pence.

my god pence is str8 out of central casting for generic white dude president

― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:11 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/2a8k0zv.png

Pretty sure Bill Weld would win this if he were there.

As a bonus, we'd get some sweet Gary Johnson lunacy in the next to main debates.

on style pence is winning but i don't believe he is arguing on behalf of a winning argument.

On balance, I think the former is more important to note voters than the latter, even if no one would ever admit that.

yeah, Kaine is calm, his geniality just makes him looks squishy next to Pence's piece of rebar with a face drawn on it

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14589578_10154470457706878_1352238595993687712_o.jpg

ehh, Pence is giving a lot of commercial fodder right now, by essentially contradicting Trump on multiple things. I can already see the Clinton ad that points out them flat-out saying things in opposition to each other in less than 24 hours

Pence's role in this debate is to shore up the conservative base who might otherwise sit this election out & he may be succeeding. I'm not entirely sure what Kaine's role is; he seems to think it's to be a standard-issue attack dog against Trump. I guess he's succeeding at that, but that's not nearly as important to the Democratic ticket as what Pence is doing for the GOP.

you're right but a VP debate isn't going to do it. pretty soon it'll be the shitty personality arguing on behalf of the shitty argument. pence giving it its best face (which incidentally sounds a lot like ignoring trump's campaign and pretending that he's the VP of a generic Republican ticket) won't imo have a lasting impact.

xps to KM