I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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Yeah, they should freshen up those stereotypes! How lazy.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

How long have Chinese people been living in America, have they only just moved there or something?

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

just under 200 years, very new arrivals

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

According to the book I just finished, 1493 by Charles Mann, some Chinese were living in Mexico from the early 1500s onwards. So, more like 500 years.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

Man, fuck yooooooooou Fox News

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Aimless i think you mean 1491 and yes it is the bomb

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

no there is a 1493 too

𝔠𝔞đ”ĸ𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

1491 II

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link

"the hardening"

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

man that book likes exactly what i have been wanting, thanking u

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

actually every time aimless mentions it i think for a second he's reading that debunked book about zheng he that's also 14something

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

hah soZ dudes - guess i will read it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/783726612743270400

I'M NERVOUS

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

lol dying

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

@jessebwatters
As a political humorist, the Chinatown segment was intended to be a light piece, as all Watters World segments are.

My man-on-the-street interviews are meant to be taken as tongue-in-cheek and I regret if anyone found offense.

just a little light racist humor, nbd

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

what a lying liar he doesn't regret a thing

ΟáŊ–Ī„ΚĪ‚, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Has "regret if you were offended" always been a thing, or is it just really noticeable these days?

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

Difficult to say, been a thing for a long while now though.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

I love the notion of conditional regret. "If ____, I regret ____"

jmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

I regret if you felt murdered by my bullet

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

sorta related - Pence's schtick at the VP debate made me think about how right-wingers perceive the word "racist" primarily as an insult, a pejorative, and divorced from any objective description of behavior. Like whether or not something is racist is just a matter of opinion and, as such, totally subjective. "YOU say it's racist, but *I* say it's not, there's just no way to be sure! Don't call me names!" It's inconceivable to them that the word is actually a descriptor of a power relationship, or the exercise of power. Or that a member of a minority might have (or should be given) the benefit of the doubt in deploying it.

ΟáŊ–Ī„ΚĪ‚, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

I regret if you felt murdered by my bullet

legit lol

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

it's weird and depressing! like if someone threw a punch, people might agree that they are not "a violent person" and that the punch was a bad move. if you say someone said something racist, they refuse to acknowledge it's not the same thing as saying the person is a racist, and that you should be chastised for saying this.

people occasionally do violent things or say/do racist things! you try not to, generally

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah my #1 wish for that debate was that Kaine jumped on Pence's pearl-clutching over the "deplorables" comment

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

conservative understanding of "racism" is as a personal character flaw--and can only be judged by examining the heart and conscience of the person being described as racist, which, surprise, is only available to that particular person. infinite deniability. all flaws are character flaws, structural racism is impossible because capitalism is just.

ryan, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

way more people than just your typical dummies view racism as this obvious, extreme form of antagonistic expression, where to see it is to know it. i.e., they think you either have to verbally accost someone of color with the previously agreed upon worst-of-the-worst racial slurs, or cause them physical harm/death in order for it to be 'racist'. some even only consider the latter - I actually had a race argument when I was 20 with a dude who said, with no sense of irony, "I hate the KKK, cos they kill n****rs!"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

isn't it kinda 'funny', though, that the same folk who decry how "PC" and "overly sensitive" everybody is seem to always be the most hair-trigger defensive when tagged with any minor criticism involving race?

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

classic of the genre:

https://twitter.com/Ribeye18/status/783710204412198912

goole, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

"regret if anyone FOUND offence" is a new one.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

if offence found, please return to me at the address below

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

lol at how much the "you're the real racists!" folks have escalated this over time. soon it will be "if you accost a guy of mild racial insensitivity on Twitter, you're like a mini-Goebbels!"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

xpost

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

offence is always found, never lost

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

they're like...if you went to a street race and someone siphoned all of the gas out of your car before the start of the race and you refilled it but by the time you finished, you were so far behind you finished 5th and the dude who won goes "hey man your car has gas NOW, why are you still whining about how unfair this is?"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

xposts

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link

offence was lost, but now it's found
the real racist is thee-eeee

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link

realizing some of your ideas might be racist takes a level of introspection

not necessarily a high level, but a level

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

real racists brush it off by claiming the left accuses anyone and everyone as racist so theyre inherently full of shit and wrong

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

xpost I took a Racial PSychology class my second year of college that was actually quite helpful in that regard, and actually led to me changing my mind about the negative feelings I had about Affirmative Action, but even people who voluntarily took the class got butthurt at many of the assignments

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

you are wrong, I am not making this snap judgement based on race but instead my deep knowledge of human nature

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

affirmative action might help some people but it is not perfect, see these cases where it elevated someone who was less qualified and a bad choice

we should instead rely on a non-affirmative action system which is so much better because it doesn't attempt to address the problems at all

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

I don't see color, but it's with an attitude!

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

with AA though, the problem is largely that the narrative got set in the 90s as "minorities are given extra points on a test", as if AA was this universal concept that didn't have a large variety of methods of implementation, most of which weren't anything like that at all.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

which lead to stupid things like that one College Republican group at a university who had a bake sale and set difference prices for different races to make a 'point'

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/783726612743270400

I'M NERVOUS

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 5:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So good.

"See Anna, I told you his hair wasn't orange."

jmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Have any blogs simply referred to Trump as "Garfield on a Monday" yet

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

"minorities are given extra points on a test"

I have literally never heard this interpretation but it makes some weird things make sense

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

omg Raymond

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

The Clinton rapid response video guy quoted in this story

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/vp-debate-rapid-response-video-saw-coming/

is a high school friend of mine. They're pretty darn quick.

i wanna fly like a beagle (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Why are people saying that Lyin, Crooked, Disgusting and Goofy Mike Pence won this debate? Just because Kaine was jittery? Pence was fucking gaslighting him half the time

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link


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