I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I regret if you felt murdered by my bullet

legit lol

it's weird and depressing! like if someone threw a punch, people might agree that they are not "a violent person" and that the punch was a bad move. if you say someone said something racist, they refuse to acknowledge it's not the same thing as saying the person is a racist, and that you should be chastised for saying this.

people occasionally do violent things or say/do racist things! you try not to, generally

yeah my #1 wish for that debate was that Kaine jumped on Pence's pearl-clutching over the "deplorables" comment

conservative understanding of "racism" is as a personal character flaw--and can only be judged by examining the heart and conscience of the person being described as racist, which, surprise, is only available to that particular person. infinite deniability. all flaws are character flaws, structural racism is impossible because capitalism is just.

way more people than just your typical dummies view racism as this obvious, extreme form of antagonistic expression, where to see it is to know it. i.e., they think you either have to verbally accost someone of color with the previously agreed upon worst-of-the-worst racial slurs, or cause them physical harm/death in order for it to be 'racist'. some even only consider the latter - I actually had a race argument when I was 20 with a dude who said, with no sense of irony, "I hate the KKK, cos they kill n****rs!"

isn't it kinda 'funny', though, that the same folk who decry how "PC" and "overly sensitive" everybody is seem to always be the most hair-trigger defensive when tagged with any minor criticism involving race?

classic of the genre:

https://twitter.com/Ribeye18/status/783710204412198912

"regret if anyone FOUND offence" is a new one.

if offence found, please return to me at the address below

lol at how much the "you're the real racists!" folks have escalated this over time. soon it will be "if you accost a guy of mild racial insensitivity on Twitter, you're like a mini-Goebbels!"

xpost

offence is always found, never lost

they're like...if you went to a street race and someone siphoned all of the gas out of your car before the start of the race and you refilled it but by the time you finished, you were so far behind you finished 5th and the dude who won goes "hey man your car has gas NOW, why are you still whining about how unfair this is?"

xposts

offence was lost, but now it's found
the real racist is thee-eeee

realizing some of your ideas might be racist takes a level of introspection

not necessarily a high level, but a level

real racists brush it off by claiming the left accuses anyone and everyone as racist so theyre inherently full of shit and wrong

xpost I took a Racial PSychology class my second year of college that was actually quite helpful in that regard, and actually led to me changing my mind about the negative feelings I had about Affirmative Action, but even people who voluntarily took the class got butthurt at many of the assignments

you are wrong, I am not making this snap judgement based on race but instead my deep knowledge of human nature

affirmative action might help some people but it is not perfect, see these cases where it elevated someone who was less qualified and a bad choice

we should instead rely on a non-affirmative action system which is so much better because it doesn't attempt to address the problems at all

I don't see color, but it's with an attitude!

with AA though, the problem is largely that the narrative got set in the 90s as "minorities are given extra points on a test", as if AA was this universal concept that didn't have a large variety of methods of implementation, most of which weren't anything like that at all.

which lead to stupid things like that one College Republican group at a university who had a bake sale and set difference prices for different races to make a 'point'

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/783726612743270400

I'M NERVOUS

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 5:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So good.

"See Anna, I told you his hair wasn't orange."

Have any blogs simply referred to Trump as "Garfield on a Monday" yet

"minorities are given extra points on a test"

I have literally never heard this interpretation but it makes some weird things make sense

omg Raymond

The Clinton rapid response video guy quoted in this story

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/vp-debate-rapid-response-video-saw-coming/

is a high school friend of mine. They're pretty darn quick.

Why are people saying that Lyin, Crooked, Disgusting and Goofy Mike Pence won this debate? Just because Kaine was jittery? Pence was fucking gaslighting him half the time

In my experience "racism" for my racist relatives means calling a black person by the n word or denying a black person food or water or shelter. The subtler forms of racism -- how a society molds a consciousness to perceive questioning of its behavior as a threat, say -- are incomprehensible to them.

Jill Stein continues to be a moron, film at 11.

Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein

Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

Pence thinks it's out of line to even suggest that racial bias in policing could be an issue.

Alfred, can I approach your relatives and just keep asking them for cigars and rum and ask whether they are mechanics capable of working on a '57 Chevy? I think after the first ten or twenty requests they might start to wonder.

Oh look, dudes powered primarily by ressentiment are holding an art show just to be dicks:

http://gothamist.com/2016/10/04/pro-trump_art_show_shocker.php

...But it seems that serious NY-based Trump supporters won't be staying in the shadows much longer: a number of major Alt-Right figures and Trump fanatics, including Milo Yiannopoulos, Gavin McInnes, and Martin Shkreli, will supposedly take part in a multimedia pro-Trump art show in Brooklyn this Saturday.

The event, #DaddyWillSaveUs: Make Art Great Again!, was organized by host Lucian Wintrich, the openly gay conservative behind the "#Twinks4Trump" photo series earlier this summer.

And they have an indiegogo:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/daddywillsaveus-make-art-great-again-party--2#/

Tbf there is something a bit offensive even in Kaine's "personal" -- not legal -- opposition to abortion, which i think he likened to the death penalty. No comparison between that and Pence's position though. If it were up to him women would die in order to save the fetus

Xp phil d

Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein
Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

if only a woman was running for president

No one on tv seems to understand what the affordable care act is. There is no insurance plan you sign up for called "Obamacare"

A woman running for president who's repeatedly call for the appeal of the Hyde Amendment and had the endorsement of Planned Parenthood for at least a year

The real Hillary died though, the one we keep seeing on TV is Steve Buscemi

Pareene opines:

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-is-the-point-of-tim-kaine-1787460446

eh its the vp who cares? not sure who else is better who actually wants the damn job. dems have nobody interesting under 60 anyway.

lol, I was going to mention my stock answer of Kamala Harris here, but when she gets the nomination in 2024 after 1+ term(s) as a Senator it looks like she'll be 59.

Hillary picked Tim Kaine cause she's looking past the election and wants someone that she can work with when she actually is president.

How often does a VP pick change the course of an election anyway? (Palin excepted, probably)

if Trump had run with Eastwood it mighta shook things up a bit

idk -- pareene no doubt knows more about kaine than i do, but my understanding is that he's a decent person who is good at the actual process of governing and whom everyone he's ever worked with apparently loves. given that essentially no better options are proposed -- should she have picked bernie? -- i don't see the point of this piece

If he ran with Scott Eastwood, maybe

xp

xpost there were some that thought that picking Bernie woulda been the "mend the fences" move that would have unified the party and led to a curbstomping in the election but I'm like, do you really think those same BernieBros wouldn't get chapped asses about being second fiddle to Hillary?

Pareene's premise that Bill's standing as her inoffensive champion makes Kaine redundant would be a fine one except that Bill is actually doing a horrible job at that