I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

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realizing some of your ideas might be racist takes a level of introspection

not necessarily a high level, but a level

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

real racists brush it off by claiming the left accuses anyone and everyone as racist so theyre inherently full of shit and wrong

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

xpost I took a Racial PSychology class my second year of college that was actually quite helpful in that regard, and actually led to me changing my mind about the negative feelings I had about Affirmative Action, but even people who voluntarily took the class got butthurt at many of the assignments

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

you are wrong, I am not making this snap judgement based on race but instead my deep knowledge of human nature

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

affirmative action might help some people but it is not perfect, see these cases where it elevated someone who was less qualified and a bad choice

we should instead rely on a non-affirmative action system which is so much better because it doesn't attempt to address the problems at all

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link

I don't see color, but it's with an attitude!

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link

with AA though, the problem is largely that the narrative got set in the 90s as "minorities are given extra points on a test", as if AA was this universal concept that didn't have a large variety of methods of implementation, most of which weren't anything like that at all.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

which lead to stupid things like that one College Republican group at a university who had a bake sale and set difference prices for different races to make a 'point'

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/783726612743270400

I'M NERVOUS

โ€• gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 5:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So good.

"See Anna, I told you his hair wasn't orange."

jmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link

Have any blogs simply referred to Trump as "Garfield on a Monday" yet

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

"minorities are given extra points on a test"

I have literally never heard this interpretation but it makes some weird things make sense

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

omg Raymond

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link

The Clinton rapid response video guy quoted in this story

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/vp-debate-rapid-response-video-saw-coming/

is a high school friend of mine. They're pretty darn quick.

i wanna fly like a beagle (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Why are people saying that Lyin, Crooked, Disgusting and Goofy Mike Pence won this debate? Just because Kaine was jittery? Pence was fucking gaslighting him half the time

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

In my experience "racism" for my racist relatives means calling a black person by the n word or denying a black person food or water or shelter. The subtler forms of racism -- how a society molds a consciousness to perceive questioning of its behavior as a threat, say -- are incomprehensible to them.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

Jill Stein continues to be a moron, film at 11.

Dr. Jill Stein โœ” @DrJillStein

Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

Cumstaun (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

Pence thinks it's out of line to even suggest that racial bias in policing could be an issue.

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link

Alfred, can I approach your relatives and just keep asking them for cigars and rum and ask whether they are mechanics capable of working on a '57 Chevy? I think after the first ten or twenty requests they might start to wonder.

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Oh look, dudes powered primarily by ressentiment are holding an art show just to be dicks:

http://gothamist.com/2016/10/04/pro-trump_art_show_shocker.php

...But it seems that serious NY-based Trump supporters won't be staying in the shadows much longer: a number of major Alt-Right figures and Trump fanatics, including Milo Yiannopoulos, Gavin McInnes, and Martin Shkreli, will supposedly take part in a multimedia pro-Trump art show in Brooklyn this Saturday.

The event, #DaddyWillSaveUs: Make Art Great Again!, was organized by host Lucian Wintrich, the openly gay conservative behind the "#Twinks4Trump" photo series earlier this summer.

And they have an indiegogo:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/daddywillsaveus-make-art-great-again-party--2#/

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

Tbf there is something a bit offensive even in Kaine's "personal" -- not legal -- opposition to abortion, which i think he likened to the death penalty. No comparison between that and Pence's position though. If it were up to him women would die in order to save the fetus

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Xp phil d

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Dr. Jill Stein โœ” @DrJillStein
Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

if only a woman was running for president

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

No one on tv seems to understand what the affordable care act is. There is no insurance plan you sign up for called "Obamacare"

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link

A woman running for president who's repeatedly call for the appeal of the Hyde Amendment and had the endorsement of Planned Parenthood for at least a year

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

The real Hillary died though, the one we keep seeing on TV is Steve Buscemi

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

eh its the vp who cares? not sure who else is better who actually wants the damn job. dems have nobody interesting under 60 anyway.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:36 (seven years ago) link

lol, I was going to mention my stock answer of Kamala Harris here, but when she gets the nomination in 2024 after 1+ term(s) as a Senator it looks like she'll be 59.

โ’นโ“ก. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

Hillary picked Tim Kaine cause she's looking past the election and wants someone that she can work with when she actually is president.

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

How often does a VP pick change the course of an election anyway? (Palin excepted, probably)

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link

if Trump had run with Eastwood it mighta shook things up a bit

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

idk -- pareene no doubt knows more about kaine than i do, but my understanding is that he's a decent person who is good at the actual process of governing and whom everyone he's ever worked with apparently loves. given that essentially no better options are proposed -- should she have picked bernie? -- i don't see the point of this piece

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

If he ran with Scott Eastwood, maybe

xp

I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

xpost there were some that thought that picking Bernie woulda been the "mend the fences" move that would have unified the party and led to a curbstomping in the election but I'm like, do you really think those same BernieBros wouldn't get chapped asses about being second fiddle to Hillary?

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Pareene's premise that Bill's standing as her inoffensive champion makes Kaine redundant would be a fine one except that Bill is actually doing a horrible job at that

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

xpost not to mention, when you're one of the older candidates in history, do you really want a dude that is 5 years older than you as you replacement if you should shuffle off?

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link

Pretty sure Ike's choice of Nixon was a move to consolidate the Taft wing of the GOP, which was giving him headches in '52.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Gore sure lost a lot of enthusiasm from his base with the Lieberman pick. I would have gone with Jeanne Shaheen.

Institute for Secular Eschatology (Sanpaku), Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:00 (seven years ago) link

Claire McCaskill would be an "exciting" pick but fail the do-no-harm test

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:03 (seven years ago) link

Gore shoulda just said he was increasing efficiency in the WH and he would absorb the Veep's duties

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/donald-trump-is-tearing-the-nfl-apart/

What a shocker - Rex Ryan and Richie Incognito are big Trump fans.

schwantz, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link

i suspect 30% of the NFL probably is at least. there's a reason why we don't like to listen to most of these people talk about non-football stuff

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link

Gore should have picked Bernie back then.

Frederik B, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link

p sure the climate woulda been very wrong for Bernie

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link

(hey Morbs, I laid the bait for you to drop DOMA/"Don't Ask Don't Tell" nuggets and other things your fav Pres did)

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link

VP picks are usually either very boring or a party consolidation tactic. If your VP is higher profile than the candidate you'll never make it

dr. mercurio arboria (mh ๐Ÿ˜), Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

Repeated head trauma could make a person more likely to support Trump.

JFK?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link

kaine wins some points back after last night

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a49252/tim-kaine-loves-the-replacements-let-it-be/

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link

Tim Kaine and Alex Pareene are the same person - why is deadspin not covering this?

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 October 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link


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