I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/783726612743270400

I'M NERVOUS

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 5:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So good.

"See Anna, I told you his hair wasn't orange."

Have any blogs simply referred to Trump as "Garfield on a Monday" yet

"minorities are given extra points on a test"

I have literally never heard this interpretation but it makes some weird things make sense

omg Raymond

The Clinton rapid response video guy quoted in this story

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/vp-debate-rapid-response-video-saw-coming/

is a high school friend of mine. They're pretty darn quick.

Why are people saying that Lyin, Crooked, Disgusting and Goofy Mike Pence won this debate? Just because Kaine was jittery? Pence was fucking gaslighting him half the time

In my experience "racism" for my racist relatives means calling a black person by the n word or denying a black person food or water or shelter. The subtler forms of racism -- how a society molds a consciousness to perceive questioning of its behavior as a threat, say -- are incomprehensible to them.

Jill Stein continues to be a moron, film at 11.

Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein

Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

Pence thinks it's out of line to even suggest that racial bias in policing could be an issue.

Alfred, can I approach your relatives and just keep asking them for cigars and rum and ask whether they are mechanics capable of working on a '57 Chevy? I think after the first ten or twenty requests they might start to wonder.

Oh look, dudes powered primarily by ressentiment are holding an art show just to be dicks:

http://gothamist.com/2016/10/04/pro-trump_art_show_shocker.php

...But it seems that serious NY-based Trump supporters won't be staying in the shadows much longer: a number of major Alt-Right figures and Trump fanatics, including Milo Yiannopoulos, Gavin McInnes, and Martin Shkreli, will supposedly take part in a multimedia pro-Trump art show in Brooklyn this Saturday.

The event, #DaddyWillSaveUs: Make Art Great Again!, was organized by host Lucian Wintrich, the openly gay conservative behind the "#Twinks4Trump" photo series earlier this summer.

And they have an indiegogo:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/daddywillsaveus-make-art-great-again-party--2#/

Tbf there is something a bit offensive even in Kaine's "personal" -- not legal -- opposition to abortion, which i think he likened to the death penalty. No comparison between that and Pence's position though. If it were up to him women would die in order to save the fetus

Xp phil d

Dr. Jill Stein ✔ @DrJillStein
Tim Kaine and Mike Pence: Two men arguing over whether women have a right to control their own bodies. That's for us to decide. #VPdebate
11:28 PM - 4 Oct 2016

if only a woman was running for president

No one on tv seems to understand what the affordable care act is. There is no insurance plan you sign up for called "Obamacare"

A woman running for president who's repeatedly call for the appeal of the Hyde Amendment and had the endorsement of Planned Parenthood for at least a year

The real Hillary died though, the one we keep seeing on TV is Steve Buscemi

Pareene opines:

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-is-the-point-of-tim-kaine-1787460446

eh its the vp who cares? not sure who else is better who actually wants the damn job. dems have nobody interesting under 60 anyway.

lol, I was going to mention my stock answer of Kamala Harris here, but when she gets the nomination in 2024 after 1+ term(s) as a Senator it looks like she'll be 59.

Hillary picked Tim Kaine cause she's looking past the election and wants someone that she can work with when she actually is president.

How often does a VP pick change the course of an election anyway? (Palin excepted, probably)

if Trump had run with Eastwood it mighta shook things up a bit

idk -- pareene no doubt knows more about kaine than i do, but my understanding is that he's a decent person who is good at the actual process of governing and whom everyone he's ever worked with apparently loves. given that essentially no better options are proposed -- should she have picked bernie? -- i don't see the point of this piece

If he ran with Scott Eastwood, maybe

xp

xpost there were some that thought that picking Bernie woulda been the "mend the fences" move that would have unified the party and led to a curbstomping in the election but I'm like, do you really think those same BernieBros wouldn't get chapped asses about being second fiddle to Hillary?

Pareene's premise that Bill's standing as her inoffensive champion makes Kaine redundant would be a fine one except that Bill is actually doing a horrible job at that

xpost not to mention, when you're one of the older candidates in history, do you really want a dude that is 5 years older than you as you replacement if you should shuffle off?

Pretty sure Ike's choice of Nixon was a move to consolidate the Taft wing of the GOP, which was giving him headches in '52.

Gore sure lost a lot of enthusiasm from his base with the Lieberman pick. I would have gone with Jeanne Shaheen.

Claire McCaskill would be an "exciting" pick but fail the do-no-harm test

Gore shoulda just said he was increasing efficiency in the WH and he would absorb the Veep's duties

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/donald-trump-is-tearing-the-nfl-apart/

What a shocker - Rex Ryan and Richie Incognito are big Trump fans.

i suspect 30% of the NFL probably is at least. there's a reason why we don't like to listen to most of these people talk about non-football stuff

Gore should have picked Bernie back then.

p sure the climate woulda been very wrong for Bernie

(hey Morbs, I laid the bait for you to drop DOMA/"Don't Ask Don't Tell" nuggets and other things your fav Pres did)

VP picks are usually either very boring or a party consolidation tactic. If your VP is higher profile than the candidate you'll never make it

Repeated head trauma could make a person more likely to support Trump.

JFK?

kaine wins some points back after last night

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a49252/tim-kaine-loves-the-replacements-let-it-be/

Tim Kaine and Alex Pareene are the same person - why is deadspin not covering this?

"Mike Pence and his taste in music are wrong for America."

i suspect 30% of the NFL probably is at least. there's a reason why we don't like to listen to most of these people talk about non-football stuff

wonder what his fav Kanye album is xpost

look at this fucken fraud

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/10/06/us/06REPUBSj1/06REPUBSj1-master768.jpg

max is good on kaine's abortion position

https://twitter.com/max_read/status/783497271161843712

lol

one of my close friends is married to the PP lobbyist for (since they had to consolidate after dramatic underfunding) a large swath of the midwest. supporting Hillary was obvious because she'd immediately show up, do events, and until the compromise shit comes, sign any bill in favor

still amazed how badly Sanders whiffed it on that front. his entire thing was advocating this ideal no-tuition single-payer (maybe even basic income) post-now ideal which shrugged at existing institutions that keep things running today. I mean, there's an inordinate amount of status quo justification, but this blue sky "everyone will have all the health care they will ever need and we won't need PP or charity clinics or whatever so my campaign doesn't connect to them" is a recurring issue. even if you're planning to address things long term, where is the transition

The Clinton rapid response video guy quoted in this story

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/vp-debate-rapid-response-video-saw-coming/

is a high school friend of mine. They're pretty darn quick.

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I sang with him in college!