I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget

I think owning guns is dumb and unnecessary and that the 2nd amendment should totally be repealed but I'm not going to paint all gun owners with the same broad brush.

I mean the brush is just "it is unacceptable to own a gun", I think "respectable gun owners" should get rid of their guns

in other news, my friend heard what sounded like a couple gunshots several blocks south of his home on a saturday, during the day, probably near this barber shop on a main street

kind of distressing but not as distressing as his neighbor across the street looking all alert and popping out of his home all strapped. I think my friend gave him the "wtf dude, put that away and go home" talk.

gunshots bad, guy who thinks the right reaction when you hear a gunshot is to go grab your gun and run several blocks toward the sound of gunfire is o_O

Fish, Barrel, so to speak, but this is always hair raising every month.

https://www.facebook.com/ParentsAgainstGunViolence/photos/a.416647195073938.95672.413407645397893/1163155777089739

Well maybe he had a bayonet. Don't judge

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Florida is going to get wrecked by the hurricane. Drudge has been panicking all week lmao

I trolled Jill Stein on Twitter and now I have some fucking Steinbot rando all up in my @ replies.

I feel like a dick but interacting with randos is like opening the door to garbage and you have to get the block button ready

basically

http://www.theonion.com/article/marilyn-manson-now-going-door-to-door-trying-to-sh-459

sorry super late but from that WaPost piece

You spend weeks wondering if your spouse is cheating on you. You ask him about it, and he denies it. Then one day, you find his emails clearly showing that he has been cheating. You confront him about it, and he shrugs it off. You see no remorse in him. If anything, you see contempt... I felt betrayed, and I was suffering partly because I saw no sign of remorse after email leaks showed that party officials had conspired to work against Bernie Sanders’s campaign.

i keep seeing this sentiment and tbh i totally don't get it. i thought the DNC revelation was that they basically did not conspire against Sanders - the most damning thing was one dude making a suggestion about attacking bernie thru his [lack of] religion, something they obv never followed through on. is it just that bernie supporters cannot let go of the idea that they were cheated even when there's zero evidence to suggest it?

had to resist the urge to reply to this clown posting on a friend's facebook page. first thing like this i've really seen fortunately

"I'm definitely not voting for Trump, but I'd rather have an idiot in the White House who can't get anything done because no one puts up with his buffoonery, than a crook who cheats and lies and manipulates the justice system to get her way, no matter what. I'm voting third party because Hillary is more of a threat to me than Trump and I will do everything in my power to keep her out of the seat.

If somehow Trump is elected, it will be a dark day for American politics, but the Political Revolution that Bernie started has gotten enough people involved in the system that we are able to fight back against anything outlandish Trump would try to do as president. Besides, I'm sure he'll attempt something that breaks all sorts of laws and probably get himself impeached. Hillary will pay off or threaten people to keep herself in the seat of power. She'd be untouchable. And the last thing we need is a leader who is exempt from the law.

This whole "can't let one of them win, so I have to vote for the other" mentality is why we're stuck in this never-ending 2-party cycle. We can break the cycle if people stop this mindset and actually vote third party. This is the best chance we've got; Hillary's camp is so divided, she's not going to win against Trump anyway, unless she commits voter fraud again (which she is being investigated for by the UN now).

Don't vote for the lesser of two evils. Vote with integrity. I will not have my name attached to either of these candidates because I don't believe in either one and I refuse to play their political manipulation games.
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I'm voting third party because Hillary is more of a threat to me than Trump

i bet i can guess this person's race & sex

I never fail to be amazed by the fully-realized imaginary worlds a human mind is able to create.

I will not have my name attached to either of these candidates

last time I checked recorded votes were private and confidential

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it was in reply to that wapo article. i wanted to tell him i'm glad he lives in nebraska where his (you're right UMS) vote doesn't actually matter

the Political Revolution that Bernie started

were his stated goals ever anything other than pulling the direction of the party platform toward economic and social justice?

Hoos is much more familiar with this whole realm, but the people who say things like "You even protested the DNC, how can you be voting for the democrat candidate?!" really don't get the idea of protest at all. You don't protest a convention to burn it down, you do so to push your views in front of the leadership and attendees hoping that your message is heard and your points are addressed. You want to vote for the best candidate, you protest and participate in the caucus/primary process in order to make sure your issues are addressed and in the hopes the party platform takes notice

could matter in omaha!

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i bet that guy isn't able to understand elections except as a grand drama centering on presidential candidates

is it just that bernie supporters cannot let go of the idea that they were cheated even when there's zero evidence to suggest it?

IMO yes

"I'm definitely not voting for Trump, but I'd rather have an idiot in the White House who can't get anything done

WHERE ARE PEOPLE GETTING THIS IDEA?

I just posted this today: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-budget-congress-229216

"is there a hurricane thread?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek)"

hurricane coming...

alfred otm. a trump administration wouldn't just mean, yknow, horrific street violence, greenlit police murder, and potential nuclear war; it also means the same old gop that's apparently getting insurged, rampant.

last thing we want is a tumescent GOP

idk my personal view, which is wearying to those around me at times, is that you have to be critical and evaluate the things you support even more than those things you dismiss outright

the "omg both clintons said some bad things about the ACA" people are so disingenous because there _are_ flaws in the current implementation and continual adjustment is necessary to make it a long-term success. uncritically making claims that it's perfect as-is is not the way to approach policy making. it's like car owners who do no maintenance whatsoever and then buy a new junker every time their engine seizes up

paul ryan is the "lets pour some sugar in this gas tank" guy thinking he's going to be a success when people are stuck by the side of the road

Bill Clinton was otm.

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/f9d144694c5449454772d6fb470f7e2dd60083fcf826906010d230d8a56d13e0_1.jpg

hahahahaha

it took me a few seconds but lmao

masterful

btw it's a minor point against the seriousness of this hurricane - - - but mar-a-lago is a historic property, not without architectural quality. trump acquiring it and giving it the patented tacky trump touch is on him, not the building. let us hope instead that his toxic name leads to the collapse of his real estate empire in a year or so, and that new owners promptly tear down or completely re-skin everything he himself has ever had a hand in building.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14485087_10210042211792426_3357585504862573715_n.jpg?oh=c09b8babc5e3c1d303d14e002e24d2b4&oe=58A76025

so drudge is hurricane truthing now?

apparently hurricanes are being exagerrated by msm to drum up belief in climate change

meanwhile since it has been shockingly hours or even days since a proper 538 update in this thread: the continued accumulation of solidly pro-clinton (or anti-trump) results in post-debate polls (national and state) has substantially altered the map. polls-only now has basically all the swingy states back in blue - NV, NM, NC, FL, OH, even IA. arizona is teetering too - its most recent polls, too, have clinton up. but they're from poorly-related polling houses. georgia, which very briefly looked blue during clinton's highest convention high, is still pink, with trump way ahead in the one (B rated) post-debate poll. OTOH the same polling house has clinton up nine points in missouri and eleven points in alaska which, ehrm, don't hold your breath. i'm assuming those have to be outliers but man would it be nice to see some more polling in those states. i'm not expecting a wild and crazy electoral map in the end but it's kind of fun to imagine huge swaths of blue, especially on the hexagon-based map where states are sized by population. trump's america, encircled and shrinking.

anyway current forecasts gives clinton a 78% chance of victory and imagines electoral votes of (rounded) 323 to 214. this is still with gary johnson at 6.9% in the popular vote which i really don't see happening.

it'd better not. this election is a referendum on gary johnson imo

This was another Stein rando's brilliant argument: https://twitter.com/crimsonboudoir/status/784137965069041664?s=09

OTOH the same polling house has clinton up nine points in missouri

saw something earlier (NYT?) about Blunt being in serious trouble, which would be great I hate that guy

i know there's some reason why letting congress pick the president in order to get bernie into office won't work but i just can't figure out what

encouraging people likely to vote trump to remain in the path of a *deadly* storm doesn't seem like a strategically good move for trump turnout (see also soliciting votes from the terminally ill)

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/784121449606852608

I would have no qualms about advising people who don't believe in climate change to head on down to the beach

he's moved on to a different tactic:

Direct eyewall hit for Freeport in next hour. Will ground observations match the Hurricane Center's claimed 140 mph sustained winds?

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=spgf1 Buoy off Freeport, in direct line of eyewall. Let's watch the data come in...

cool, so if the buoy that he has identified as being nearby (??) doesn't get "the Hurricane Center's claimed 140 mph sustained winds?" (source???) then liberals are lying to people in order to get them to worry about climate change.

also...matt drudge only has 4 tweets since 2011, and they're all from today? or does he delete them all the day after he posts them or something? god he's a fucking weirdo

lol, what does he think that the hurricanes are calibrated to distribute exactly 140 mile an hour winds for hundreds of miles? hell, hurricane force winds only extend 45 miles from the thing

why would fake reports of extreme weather convince these people that climate change is real when real reports of extreme weather haven't made a dent

i don't know why i care, but here is what the hurricane center actually said:

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
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At 500 PM EDT (2100 UTC), the eye of Hurricane Matthew was located
near latitude 26.2 North, longitude 78.6 West. The hurricane
is moving toward the northwest near 14 mph (22 km/h), and this
general motion is expected to continue tonight with a turn toward
the north-northwest early Friday. On the forecast track, the
eye of Matthew should move near or over Freeport in the Bahamas
in the next hour or so, and move close to or over the east coast
of the Florida peninsula through Friday night.

Maximum sustained winds are near 140 mph (220 km/h) with higher
gusts. Matthew is a category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
Hurricane Wind Scale. Some fluctuations in intensity are likely
while the hurricane moves toward the coast of Florida.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT4+shtml/062051.shtml

so if winds don't reach what the hurricane center set as a worst case scenario, the govt is lying to you. also, if winds exceed what the hurricane center set as the worst case scenario, they're incompetent.

god he's a manipulative asshole

science!

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speaking of...

http://wonkette.com/607281/rush-limbaugh-pretty-sure-liberals-cant-wait-for-hurricane-matthew-to-kill-everybody

That's not true, Rush. I just can't wait for the hurricane to kill you.