Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

Hahaha

real nasty fucker, but also sort of hilarious.

Mano el Mano is one for the ages

mano el tough

A Ukip MEP accused of punching a leadership candidate today claimed his colleague’s collapse was ‘pure Hollywood’ as he threatened to sue him for defamation.

Mike Hookem escalated the bitter row dividing the party by suggesting Steven Woolfe had staged a photograph of him passed out on the ground before he was rushed to hospital.

He told the Mail: ‘Now I’m not a medical man, but that was pure Hollywood to me the way he was face down.

Hookem has redeemed 2016.

if he didn't just forget the word "doctor" then what else is included in the category "medical man"?

‘I was expecting a police squad to come and draw a line around him. People I have met who have had seizures they do not go down like that. It’s very suspect.’

lol!

just how many people does he meet that have seizures shortly thereafter?

they sequentially meet his fist and a Strasbourg pavement

Davis brushed off complaints about the lack of transparency, telling parliament that May had an overwhelming mandate to negotiate the terms of leaving the EU.

How on earth is this remotely true?

- She supported the Remain side, which lost
- She didn't lead her party to an election victory

I still don't get how Cameron's leadership was untenable because of his Remain failure. May was Remain too, and she failed tooz

Sorry phone ate that. I get the Cameron thing - but May is in the same position. How can she be a strong advocate for something she doesn't believe in?

It was Cameron's doing, though - May may feel she is bound by the referendum's result, but if it wasn't for Cameron there'd be no referendum.

May has spent an inordinate amount of energy as Home Secretary trying to get people eveicted from the country and spent a great deal of energy on particular families deportations - really much more that any home Sec should. She's a maniac about immigration who only voted remain because she was well whipped.

No I agree, but however much she wanted it, she didn't pull the trigger - David Cameron did, and when you pissed off people on your side, people not on your side and people who don't think there should have been a referendum in the first place (and there only was one because of your spinelessness wrt your own party), then your position is untenable.

Sure, I just don't see how she has any credibility either. She was part of the same front-bench that created this whole mess. And she voted Remain. And she's never herself received a national mandate from the ballot box.

nothing is true, grasshopper, and everything is permitted

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvGlPf-z7I&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

This is otm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvGlPf-z7I&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

lol, mucked that up:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/11/crash-pound-delusion-brexit-britain-flourish

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Then there was foreign secretary Boris Johnson describing his new offices: “When I go into the Map Room of Palmerston I cannot help remembering that this country over the last two centuries has directed the invasion or conquest of 178 countries.”

surprised to see this mentioned, are the tories going to try to own this history now?

Luckily only a largish handful of the 178 are current EU members so this won't affect trade negotiations much.

perhaps they'll wish to rejoin britain now it's free from the eu

That would solve the Irish border issue.

It didn't before

piirca

second time as fararce

There's a genuine premium to Britishness in international business ime but, tbqh, a lot of that is attached to a perception of fairness / affability and the effects of the soft power of British cultural institutions - not least British education. This kind of brash tub-thumping, in combination with the 'fortress Britain' approach to immigration and study, is about as effective a way to kill that premium off as i can imagine.

it feels like at some level of business every country's bullshit image of itself probably wins them business - i guess that's soft power generally.

Fucking hell this yacht thing though.

The yacht thing is the greatest. Can Labour please bring up the yacht every chance they get for the next 10 years

This has got to be at least 70% because the Barclay brothers are obsessed with superyachts, doesn't it? I've barely seen anything in favour outside of The Telegraph but they're riding this like they've got shares in the shipyard.

according to The Telegraph the last model could barely float it was that stuffed with fucking trade deals that Brenda + co had brought back from their hols

What's the appeal of the yacht? Some throwback to simpler (deadlier) times like 'Brittania rules the waves' in this dire brexit era or something? How should it "get the economy going"?

1) 'recognise strength of passion' for a new royal yacht
2) build yacht
3) ???
4) profit

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(from this 2012 Vice piece)

So now Parliament does get the chance to debate/approve triggering Article 50, sterling rebounds almost immediately.

WHy do you think gov agreed on the motion? Veigning transparancy or something? Making labour take some blame too when Article 50 is finally triggered?

They were going to lose — they didn't have the votes.

Meanwhile, Keir Starmer is fucking *killing it* during Brexit questions

He's my MP. Expect nothing less, he's been brilliant at every aspect of his job so far.

Yeah, he seems like one of the best of the moment. Headlines the other day suggested that he wants an open and honest conversations about people's very real concerns, but I didn't dig into it - I hope he's better than that.

i was gonna say, didn't he give it the 'legitimate concerns' thing recently...

And Corbyn had a pretty great PMQs, only for his spokesperson to fuck it all up by prevaricating hard over whether we should blame Russia or is it maybe actually the US that's really to blame for Aleppo, when you think about it?

^^ that was really lame, yeah.

Legitimate concerns: yes, he did mention those. Starmer was crossing the country most weeks seeking out voters' opinions on immigration issues before the Brexit vote (and even after he resigned from the first shad cab) so I assume he means the concerns Labour are on record as finding legitimate. That's the pay and conditions of migrants, their dodgy employers (who often charge back young migrants to live 10 to a 3-bed semi next to families, who hate this), the perception of strained facilities and *not* the standard UKIPpy send-'em-back bullshit. I don't think the voters he consulted GAF where their doctors, nurses and appropriately housed neighbours come from, and it isn't Labour encouraging blame of immigrants for a paucity of school places or NHS waiting times or competition for housing. You want the Mail for that!

He has tried to be clever in his explanation: "by increasing the skills of British workers" - but imo he's still pandered to xenophobes by saying he wants lower immigration.

Anna Soubry also banging today

It's funny how immigration is literally the only working class concern that anyone gives a shit about, isn't it?

'legitimate concerns' is like a verbal swastika these days.

Is there a way that Labour could become better at strategy (exploiting tory weaknesses) that doesn't involve chasing 'electability' in out of date '97 terms?