Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 06:20 (seven years ago) link

indeed

and was in answer to mark s upthread which wasn't v clear.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:16 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/786486251394207744

I hope you are all commemorating this in a suitably sombre manner.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:53 (seven years ago) link

norman yokeba

mark s, Friday, 14 October 2016 10:00 (seven years ago) link

so not gonna happen II

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Monday, 17 October 2016 08:42 (seven years ago) link

oh god i entered into the twitter discussion surrounding this story when will i ever learn?

Robby Mook (stevie), Monday, 17 October 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

LOOOOOOL but I did love the joek Tweet that said the councillor in question, Christian Holliday, had to change his surname from Christmas so as not to discomfit users of other religions and the PC elites.

jane burkini (suzy), Monday, 17 October 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link

ordinary supermarkets denuded of fresh fruit and veg except that picked by men and women let out of prison camp for the day: this was nagl for the mighty soviet union and is unlikely add to the lustre and soft power of the New British Empire

(am assuming fancy supermarkets for the financier-nomenklatura would still stock delicacies flown in from wherever, now far too expensive not just for the median shopper but for several layers above except on special days)

mark s, Monday, 17 October 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link

the plot thickens https://twitter.com/PaulKGB/status/788000120591777792

Neil S, Monday, 17 October 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/JU56ur9.png

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 October 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

Cardomon, that first concrete evidence is from July. Wondering if its even worse now.

Robby Mook (stevie), Monday, 17 October 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

In the BBC interview, Mr Woolfe said he had told Mr Hookem "let's go outside and discuss this man-to-man"

Its "mano el mano" get it right ffs.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 17 October 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

None of that foreign shite.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

I love it when Kippers try to use European expressions...

jane burkini (suzy), Monday, 17 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

I think the chances of May being able to invoke Article 50 without a legal challenge from someone seem very slim.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

stoked for the madness

good luck uk

doo-doo diplomacy (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link

Had someone done something about restricting royal prerogative over the last 200 years it might be an interesting line of enquiry but I can't see any legal challenge being successful as it is.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 10:43 (seven years ago) link

I think the chances of May being able to invoke Article 50 without a legal challenge from someone seem very slim.

There's a pretty serious challenge being heard in the High Court right now. I think the Govt. will win, though.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 10:47 (seven years ago) link

FM 17 has got in on the Brexit debate

http://i.imgur.com/mIaZbxL.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

shit just got real

pandemic, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:32 (seven years ago) link

FM18: league cancelled as remoaners herded into larger stadiums while all small grounds converted to allotments in Dig for the New British Empire campaign

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 11:40 (seven years ago) link

There's a pretty serious challenge being heard in the High Court right now. I think the Govt. will win, though.

This morning it has turned into a win-win for Bremoainairners. I think. The case is hinging on whether or not Article 50 is reversible. If it isn't, then triggering it will mean people lose rights granted under EU treaties (eg to appeal to the EU courts), and that's a power reserved to parliament — so parliament has to vote and it can't be done under prerogative.

If it *is* reversible, then then govt very likely wins the case and so can trigger A50 — but — then it has conceded it can be reversed and we get two years to do as Tusk suggests and spell out the real economic consequences of this to an electorate that is already starting to realise all may not be quite right here, with the hope of another vote or something to shitcan this awful idea.

stet, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link

The very juicy part of that last one, though, is that the govt would have to *prove* it can be reversed, and the High Court is likely to say it can't rule on that, will send it the Supreme Court, which has to refer it to the ECJ. Christ it might finally give Dacre a fatal stroke to think that a EURO JUDGE gets to RULE ON OUR SOVEREIGNTY

stet, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

L O L

conrad, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

http://www.politico.eu/article/theresa-may-commits-to-targeted-visa-immigration-system-uk-government-hard-brexit/

May has also asked the taskforce to help cut migration numbers by “making it harder for illegal immigrants to stay in the country.”

Makes you wonder how they work out how many people to add on top of the figure for those moving here legally.

nashwan, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/british-tea-jam-and-biscuits-will-be-at-the-heart-of-britains-br/

i see we're back at a trade strategy built round comedy marmalades

also lol where/how are british teas grown exactly? as picked by prison-camp coolies in the post-climate-change plantations i guess

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

it will be uniquely British tea made from domestic ingredients like erm.. dandelions, nettles and purple loosestrife

calzino, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link

BEEF TEA

ROAST BEEF TEA

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

things that we can't even grow and processed foods that can practically be produced anywhere is a real fucking winner!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

(haha bcz i am very old and brought up in the actual real country, my brain spasmed briefly towards a "well, actually… " when you said nettles etc)

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

my pisshead granddad used to make dandelion/nettle tea when he was skint, but that was Irish ingenuity!

calzino, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

Actually tea is grown in Scotland and in Cornwall. It's quite expensive though. I had a fine caddy of Xmas Chai grown in the Dalreoch Estate lsdy Christmas . I think you were aware of this mark?

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link

rich tea? yes
bourbons? NO
jaffa cakes? NO
gypsy creams? NO
shrewsbury biscuits? *grimaces briefly* yes i suppose so

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

What's the Scottish one called? You'll Have Had Your?

Patti Labelle is in here with her high but mediocre singing voice. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

lol scotland will be back in europe and off the list in no time flat

as will hobnobs apparently (and mcvities generally)

tunnock's teacakes? NO

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

for tom
http://weeteacompany.com/index.php/scottish-tea.html

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Abernethy? YES (surprisingly)

Patti Labelle is in here with her high but mediocre singing voice. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:35 (seven years ago) link

wee tea is even less enticing than dandelion tea imo

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

c'mon they've got their own kirk and everything

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

also the french for dandelion is pissenlit = piss the bed) but i guess we aren't trying to tell it there anyway

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

sell it there i mean (sorry for typos i'm watching a gripping film feat.keanu reeves as a disgraced samurai)

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

That's what we called them when I was growing up. Piss-the-beds, that is.

Patti Labelle is in here with her high but mediocre singing voice. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

I think it might be interesting to watch Larry Elliott over the coming months: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/16/let-the-pound-fall-and-the-economy-rise

He is probably the one pro-Brexit voice that doesn't make me scream, except I do now and then. In the above you are following the logic and then you get this:

Will dearer food and the coming squeeze on living standards will prompt a change of heart about Brexit? Remainers should not bank on it. Life has not been great for many in recent years anyway. What’s more, Britain is a country with a streak of cussedness that delights in having its back to the wall.

He has said it would take a prolonged and brutal recession for him to regret his vote for Brexit #stokedForTheMadness

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

authentic austerity >>> spectacular austerity

^^^bold argument

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Is this true Brits: Do you like having your backs to the wall? I did not know this about you..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's why people are still bellyaching about some bin bags being piled up in Leicester Square 37 years after it happened.

Patti Labelle is in here with her high but mediocre singing voice. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link


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