Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

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Sure, selling weapons to a family dictatorship for genocide in Yemen really fucking enhances our security. All these Labour abstainers are a disgrace as usual, and their mealy mouthed self deception sounds like desperate bullshit from people ensconced in corruption as usual.

calzino, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

"yes we are selling weapons to an autocratic regime to wage war on civilians in the poorest country in the middle east, but think of how much worse things would be if we weren't"

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

grown-up politicians know that it's important for the national interest that MPs take bribes from murderous dictators on the reg

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

“The coalition is precisely focused on training Saudis to be better able to be in compliance with international humanitarian law so that our interventions, if effective, will create fewer civilian casualties,” he said.

And how is that going? Were they only supposed to bomb the funeral twice, to get the guests and the first wave of people trying to dig them out of the rubble, rather than three times to get the people who were digging the first wave out?

The market for the UK's trash weapons looks a lot smaller without KSA so there is probably no need to bribe anyone these days but I do wonder how much of that al-Yamamah cash is still sloshing about.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

"yes we are selling weapons to an autocratic regime to wage war on civilians in the poorest country in the middle east, but think of how much worse things would be if we weren't"

tbf, we have a long track record of selling them planes you can't fly in desert conditions so there might be something to this.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

well y'know bribes in the broadest sense, probably entirely legal for the most part, grown-up politics shit, legitimate business, the sort of stuff the Labour party was founded to protect

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37791366

DUP block equal marriage for five years.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

remind us what the D stands for

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

several abortive attempts to craft a response that wasn't hugely sectarian

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link

several boat trips, then

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Tony Blair: conviction democrat

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 October 2016 13:05 (seven years ago) link

lol! IDS reviewing the new KL movie on R4 this morning was pretty much RUSSIANS HUNGRY, BUT NOT STARVING type shit. Even when he is trying to erase his own toxic legacy he doesn't quite know when to stfu

calzino, Friday, 28 October 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/SKinnock/status/792052127887654912

Are Kinnock and Woodcock trying to make themselves look as appalling as possible in a bid to make the rest of the centrists seem better in comparison? It's like kamikaze politics.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 29 October 2016 09:46 (seven years ago) link

nah, they really are neocon scum

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 October 2016 09:47 (seven years ago) link

state of the Labour Party

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 October 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

Like father, like son.

Millions of species Faye Dunaway (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:05 (seven years ago) link

hey at least his dad used to pretend to be a socialist

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:07 (seven years ago) link

Don't forget Boris - "If WE don't sell arms to the Saudis someone else will"

nashwan, Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link

when the bullshit isn't cutting just admit that we are amoral profiteers of genocide, what the heck.

calzino, Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link

^cutting it

calzino, Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link

Amoral Profiteers of Genocide = national mission statement iirc

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 October 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link

and the next Manic Street etc..

Mark G, Saturday, 29 October 2016 12:45 (seven years ago) link

Ugh, MSP on in the pub as I read that. Not a good omen.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 29 October 2016 12:53 (seven years ago) link

Well, if you tolerate that...

Mark G, Saturday, 29 October 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link

this has been doing the rounds on twitter but Wetherspoons voice of the people and prominent brexit bellend Tim Martin still isn't happy.

http://app.ft.com/content/219bd3a4-c6ef-30d8-ade2-0b2fe0eafb31

as one person had it:

"He wanted to leave the EU & now he's mad at the EU for losing the benefits of being in the EU."

Fizzles, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

EU drinks manufacturers have apparently just sent UK suppliers new price lists with a 20-30% uplift due to the weak GBP, which I am sure he will take with equally good grace.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

Almost makes you wonder how these dorks would feel about the EU if we'd never belonged to it

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

When the new benefits cap kicks in on monday it will be very harsh for a lot of people, but for something like 18000 people in London it will be a disaster. They will either be driven out of their homes or will have to sacrifice food/heating/basic needs for rent, and some probably will try and make that work. So much for Damian Green's no more cuts under TM pledge, he just meant no more additional cuts to the already diabolical timetable of misery to come.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

I for one welcome the 21st century Dickens who's going to step up to chronicle this

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

At 10:35 on an early winter's morning, John Lanchester sat down at his study desk, switched on his new Dell computer, opened up the word processing programme that the computer had come with and began

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I knew Lanchester was the punch line :D

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

I hope none of Labour's London landlord clique will be hypocritical enough to criticise this austerity while social tenants are being evicted from their own properties. Mind you most of them probably wouldn't rent to such lowlife in the first place.

http://landlord-mps.co.uk/

calzino, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

gonna out myself once again as a delusional utopian Trot but the thought of Labour MPs as landlords is pushing my already deep depression down past the GAME OVER line

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Even Meacher had 4 properties in London, but I think he was being more honest than most on that list.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

imagine tony and cherie consumed with regret that they didn't hang on to their house in hackney

conrad, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

or the one in downing st

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

just a tarted up council house with no right to buy option really.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/TimesLaw/status/794118330357522433

Parliament approval needed

groovypanda, Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link

oh this will be fun

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Crikey. Wonder whether Govt. will take it to the Supreme Court?

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

There will be an appeal hearing early Dec. apparently.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:15 (seven years ago) link

I suspect most Tory MPs will dutifully fall in line, but there could be enough disgruntled Osbornites out there to whittle away at their majority. The real question is what Labour do now - given the obvious divisions in their voter base I suspect we're in for another almighty clusterfuck.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:16 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I think a Bill could easily make it through the commons in the current climate. The Lords, though, no idea.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:20 (seven years ago) link

Oh god this is all going to be about how Labour is totally useless. Somehow. AGAIN. Isn't it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm not convinced that Corbyn will oppose it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:22 (seven years ago) link

Ditto quisling fucks like Chuka with a massive Remain majority and an eye on the leadership.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link

Worst case scenario I can see now is that this leads to a General Election, which the Tories will win at a landslide. Then we are truly fucked.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/evans_edward/status/794118764526714880

groovypanda, Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link

Oh god this is all going to be about how Labour is totally useless. Somehow. AGAIN. Isn't it

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:21 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trump le Monde (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link

a lot of celebratory tweets etc - hard to see anything good coming from this

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 3 November 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link


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