Trans/Genderqueer/Agender/Questioning Thread

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what do you do when your agender friend assumes a name that is based on a questionable/kinda racist joke e.g. the japanese l-r thing

qop (crüt), Monday, 21 November 2016 13:37 (seven years ago) link

like do I call them out on it?

qop (crüt), Monday, 21 November 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

I would, yeah. Is there any way that it's not actually a joke in that sense but an acceptable variant spelling? Still, if they were my friend I would definitely talk to them about it.

emil.y, Monday, 21 November 2016 13:43 (seven years ago) link

like do I call them out on it?

― qop (crüt)

definitely. marginalized groups need to have respect for other marginalized groups.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 21 November 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Watching The Trans List. It's nice to see a celebration of so many varied voices that gives a narrative to who people are.

JacobSanders, Friday, 9 December 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link

oh i should hang out in this thread more

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 02:08 (seven years ago) link

although that morbs bullshit upthread certainly makes me not want to

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link

what are you feeling lately?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link

idk i'm pretty much in the same spot i've always been, just sort of navigating an ambiguous queer identity the best i can, just while wearing more makeup and dresses

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link

I envy guys who can wear makeup -- I write it w/out snark. I'm too self-conscious.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 December 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

Came out to my best friend today and his wife last week (also a really close friend, just moved in with them), first non-therapists I've talked to about it. Terrifying but a very positive experience. Guess I'm coming out here too, I'm a trans woman, hey everybody.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 9 December 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link

Hi

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Friday, 9 December 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link

I've been listening to a podcast called "how to be a girl", from a mother raising her trans daughter. It's really really good,really enlightening but also heartbreaking.

just1n3, Friday, 9 December 2016 06:53 (seven years ago) link

hi en i see kay!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

Hi, en i see kay; congratulations on being able to share yr identity with yr friends! That is one part of all this that does get easier over time, I think, but it helps to start with people you trust to be accepting.

one way street, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

suuuuup

clouds, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

hey everybody

(waves back) hey!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 9 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

Thanks! It's been quite the whirlwind. I've been wrestling with it for a long time, thought I was just a girly art fella who did some crossdressing in high school and college, figured it was just art school genderbending, then I got to 30 and it never went away.

I'd been in this nebulous place for about three years where I spent a lot of time looking at transition timelines, secretly shaving my legs, cursing my facial hair (though I grew it out once and kind of liked messing with it in a Cronenberg body horror way) but thought I might not be trans *enough*, which I now know is a very common experience.

Then the election happened and I realized that I needed to deal with it head on and asap, helped along by a fucking amazing therapist (if anyone reading this is in Chicago and has the slightest bit of queerness to them, I can't recommend the Center on Halsted enough, such a beautiful place.) Now I've got an appointment with an informed consent doc who I'm hoping will prescribe and write me an "appropriate treatment" letter so I can get a passport application in under the wire (though I'm not getting my hopes up too much.)

I'm torn between being furious that these awful bigots have made me rush things like this and thankful for the push. I don't know how long I might have kept pretending. (Okay, not torn, mostly furious, especially when I think about how hard it's going to be for other people, and how Pence thinks the gov't should pay to "convert" me.)

Figuring out my name is going to be hard, I dislike every femme variant of Nick (no offense to Nikkis and Nicoles, it's just personal baggage from being what I thought at the time was misgendered and the bone-chilling fear that accompanied it) but would really rather not make a drastic phoneme shift.

Soz 4 blog post, just feels so good to get it out of my head after so long.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 10 December 2016 11:33 (seven years ago) link

<3

6 god none the richer (m bison), Saturday, 10 December 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

congrats en, sorry about America/people

banfred bann (wins), Saturday, 10 December 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

Nice to meetcha!

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

i'm sorry if i've perpetrated any bullshit. i'm not a hater.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

:)

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 10 December 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

<3 en

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

*high five*

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

godspeed en i

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link

En that is awesome!

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

I'm glad you have a good therapist and access to healthcare, en; Chicago seems like it has better trans resources and a larger community than almost any other midwestern city. On naming, I will say that it's easier to get used to a phoneme shift than you might think, but I hope you can find something that you're comfortable with--if you have a few options in mind, you might try having yr therapist or a friend try out different names with you so you can tell what feels right. I'm sorry yr catalyst had to be so traumatic (and ominous for people like us), but I hope you can continue to find supportive people around you.

one way street, Saturday, 10 December 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

omg welcome, new people! congrats all around. <3

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

(this is rev btw)

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

also, I kind of drifted away from this thread (and ilx in general) but I started HRT last september and have been publicly identifying as a trans woman since about that time. things are going really well for me and most of the time I've a lot less miserable than I was before. it's been an amazing process.

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link

I'm going to avoid doing too much raving about how amazing estrogen is for now but I might later.

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:30 (seven years ago) link

awesome to hear things going well rev :)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

rev <3

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

love you, rev

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link

also en i am v psyched about what's happening in your life, as much as the environment that pushed you toward making these decisions is awful. i felt similarly motivated after the election though i had the simultaneously feeling of "oh i think i might need to stop doing this (doing this = being...myself?) in order to survive"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link

<3 Really glad you're in a good place these days, rev. Estrogen's effects feel glacially slow in arriving at times, but they've been massively helpful to me in terms of emotional stability. I'm happy that it's been a good process for you too.

one way street, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Omg rev I knew there was a reason I felt a bit of a kinship with you when I was lurking in old ilx days! Congrats!

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link

And thanks to everyone for well wishes, I'm definitely in the baby trans stage where any affirmation means a ton, so it's especially appreciated.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

And bn, that's a almost exactly word for word a thought process I went through the day after.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

rev, glad you're happier. en, I'm sure you'll be the same fine person we have always known, but more so!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link

didn't know that latest news rev, much love, hope things continue to be amazing

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

<3 to all of you

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Omg rev I knew there was a reason I felt a bit of a kinship with you when I was lurking in old ilx days! Congrats!

― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:11 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh gosh I wasn't even out as queer when I first joined ILX. Much love to you bbg!

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

<3 Really glad you're in a good place these days, rev. Estrogen's effects feel glacially slow in arriving at times, but they've been massively helpful to me in terms of emotional stability. I'm happy that it's been a good process for you too.

― one way street, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I feel so much more emotionally intelligent now and less prone to depression. It feels like my brain has been completely rewired. The physical changes have been nice, I guess my breasts are the most obvious, but also my face has rounded out a bit, my butt and thighs have filled out, and I was told my neck and arms look more feminine although I can't really see that one myself. There's other stuff too that I don't really feel comfortable going into in front of cis eyes. But all of that feels tiny in comparison to the mental changes.

Get Me Bodied (Extended Mix), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

In order: got drunk and came out to friend visiting for NYE, got drunk and came out to ex, have had tentative discussions with current gf, made appointment for therapist through school

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

<3

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

Congratulations!

one way street, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

oh wow congrats

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link

Big steps, impressed!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 02:50 (seven years ago) link


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