Parts of American culture that have never really been imported outside the US

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never saw anyone pan fry a grilled cheese in britain ever.
no, but we also don't call them that - like RS said, we call them toasties and make them in sandwich toasters. I think of "grilled cheese" as referring specifically to US-style fried cheese sandwiches

― wins, Monday, January 16, 2017 10:27 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am from britain lol

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

but in britain you either have a toastie maker/sandwich press thing or you have it in the oven under the grill

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 January 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

xp I know, I was just clarifying the distinction that exists in my head between the American dish "grilled cheese" and their British non-fried counterparts which are never referred to by anyone here as "grilled cheese"

wins, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

(I always thought they were the same thing until there was a thread on here where someone was explaining the American method and I was like wha)

wins, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaxyzK2mHqw

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

Fried bread is a thing over here, don't know why no-one ever thought of sticking some cheese on it tbh.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Monday, 16 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

right?

wins, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

think ive only put bread on the pan to make french toast

never bothered with a grilled cheese

i did however put toast/bread with cheese in the oven hundreds of times as a student

this philippine fella saw me heating up a sandwich in the lunchroom once and he seemed to be appalled

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 16 January 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

inspired to make a snack for cyrus and i. british china in honor of this thread.

https://scontent.fbos1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16002745_1730493687264276_8887851506842017086_n.jpg?oh=c5196df029c0bc9a59ac1ec8f1b0a1a3&oe=59217482

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

mozzarella for cyrus. swiss for me.

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

also made with extra-buttery Amish butter. soooooo friggin' good. they might not know much about iPods but they sure as heck know butter.

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

(it basically ends up tasting like bread made out of butter. but you only live once...)

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

Are there any other countries where the main type of eggs consumed are the leghorn white variety? There are polar opposite standards on eggs between the US/UK, we don't refrigerate them and sell them covered in shit and feathers whereas the US eggs have to be cleaned with 90 degrees F hot water until all traces of fecal matter are gone. Just through seeing them in US Movies + tv since childhood I have always liked the look of white eggs. But apparently our dirty eggs have a richer taste and bigger yolks.

calzino, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

we eat brown eggs too! but they taste no different.

scott seward, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link

I did read that from from a terrible UK newspaper, although not being refrigerated in transit might make a difference in taste.

calzino, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I sometimes wonder if other people can taste a difference between white and brown eggs.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 16 January 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

I deliberately bought brown eggs a time or two - couldn't taste a difference, though they did seem to be slightly smaller.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 16 January 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link

I can never recall seeing any brown eggs in American tv/movies. Like a random example: Ralph Cifaretto's death scene in The Sopranos, so I always thought they didn't exist there!

calzino, Monday, 16 January 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

US brown eggs are brown from the the shell itself, not from being covered in bird shit, feathers, etc. Brown eggs in the stores go through the same washing process. I can't taste a difference either, but I have had eggs from home chicken farmers and those are noticeably better. It's what the chickens eat that matters, I think.

nickn, Monday, 16 January 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link

I remember the first time I lived with Americans they were SHOCKED AND APPALLED when I put ketchup on my French toast, but subsequent research has revealed that most of the world seem to be not on my side on this one.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Monday, 16 January 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

^^^ savages itt.

nickn, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link

i have in my time both fried and microwaved cheese sandwiches

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link

xxp -- I...really, really want to FP you for that. But I guess that's not what it's for.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link

forgot i didnt own a microwave til recently

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link

dont ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ even ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ surely

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

let lightning strike if i am telling a lie

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link

Ketchup on French Toast? Porquoi??

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link

I only didn't feel ill there because I blocked that one out as soon as I read it.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N5m4wjSAWQs/maxresdefault.jpg

example (crüt), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZOgBrgzQ2A

Jamie Oliver clearly Proper British, he utilizes a HP bottle as a weight and gives a shoutout to the queen, but this doesn't go near a Breville so obviously some transatlantic travesty

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 05:09 (seven years ago) link

I agree that the grilled cheese sandwich is a misnomer. Alton Brown is kind of insane about this and has a whole involved thing where he actually grills the cheese, then puts it on grilled bread. http://altonbrown.com/grilled-grilled-cheese/

Urine Andropov (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:22 (seven years ago) link

(My confusion on this was further fuelled by "grill" meaning different things in the US and UK, but you all know that already.)

Tim, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link

Don't know why French toast + ketchup always elicits this response, it's fried bread crossed with a fried egg, so surely savoury? And I can't deal with sweet breakfasts in any case. But yeah, I know nobody will agree with me on this.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:36 (seven years ago) link

Can't see why French toast + ketchup would be any worse than (say) pancakes + sausages + maple syrup but I'm staying away from both fwiw.

Tim, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

I thought you meant that you were doing a trad French toast, with sugar, cinnamon, and maple syrup, and adding ketchup to this. If you're just replacing all the sugary stuff with ketchup, that seems like a different dish altogether: I dislike ketchup, albeit less than mayonnaise, but this is definitely less disgusting that the first thing I imagined (and blocked out). xp

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:41 (seven years ago) link

I thought you meant that you were doing a trad French toast, with sugar, cinnamon, and maple syrup,

Trad in North America, I assume?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:45 (seven years ago) link

.... just checked and that is trad French Toast, just not where I'm from.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:47 (seven years ago) link

wait, what about maple syrup? we bathe in that stuff here. but do they maple elsewhere? seriously, millions of gallons of it every year in north america.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:50 (seven years ago) link

Not much maple syrup over here, ime.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 13:54 (seven years ago) link

okay, you definitely need more of that. the good stuff anyway.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

I speak as a Britisher who has always done toasted sandwiches in the frying pan, until my wife got tired of the smoky kitchen and bought me a sandwich press

mahb, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link

doesn't have to be smoky though. just even medium heat and butter the bread before you put it on pan. takes like 5 minutes. and cover the pan.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link

so, wait, challah bread french toast with cinnamon and powdered sugar and real maple syrup not a part of a european's balanced breakfast?

one of life's great greatnesses. strawberries and blueberries optional.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link

We don't have maple syrup but we do have this stuff, tho it doesn't seem as popular as it once was. Classic tin:

http://www.englishteastore.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/F/C/FCO_TAT_SYRP907_-00_Tate-and-Lyles-Golden-Syrup-Tin-2lb-907g.jpg

Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:22 (seven years ago) link

it is £6.49 for a small bottle of buckwud maple syrup in my local co-op. I love the stuff but I'll only spend that much on booze or steal it.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:23 (seven years ago) link

when maple syrup mixes with the sauce of baked beans + with pancakes and bacon it is so nice.

calzino, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

French toast increasingly available in London cafes. Best I've had maybe at The Blue Legume in Islington (served with plums and creme fraiche) but also recently at 384 in Brixton.

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

French toast was a savoury dish when I was growing up.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

We had eggy bread which was savoury but it's not the same thing as French toast. And yeah ketchup plus actual French toast sounds disgusting tbh.

I was skeptical of maple syrup on bacon/sausages but it is actually delicious!

Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

Eggy bread is the same as French toast though?

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link


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