or maybe not, but would Jedi recognize him as one of them? I say no!
― Dominique, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
leia is the last jedi, which means they've painted themselves into a really awkward corner
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link
kylo ren is neither sith nor jedi
― mh đ, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:22 (seven years ago) link
nor is he a nightsister of dathomir, unless he is
― mh đ, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
The Lost Jedi might've been better. Applies to Luke who had been lost, applies to Kylo who they lost to the dark side, possibly applies to Rey who was lost/abandoned although I suspect she is a new thing (Darth Vader comic and maybe other SW media allude to that concept if not about Rey herself).
― nashwan, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Are they just gonna do the Obi Wan Darth Vader scene with Luke and Kylo Ren? Probably
― silverfish, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
Maybe it means "The Most Recent Jedi", i.e. Luke
― jmm, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:33 (seven years ago) link
Technical term there is lastest.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link
xxp maybe they'll run each other through like Arthur and Mordred at the end of Excalibur.
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
"no i meant you're an old friend, not that you're OLD, oh ffs"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link
The Latest Jedi, (co-starring the latest Death Star)
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link
Still wondering how they'll handle the opening shot after it was suggested they would start with the same scene The Force Awakens ended on. Would've thought the best (consistent) way to handle this would be for the text crawl to fade and then pan down to a view of the planet Luke is on with the Falcon wooshing past towards it. Ideally you wouldn't 'recap' in this way either but the films have never opened on the Falcon in space so that would be nice in itself. "Previously on Star Wars" voiceover optional.
― nashwan, Monday, 23 January 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
The Last Gasp
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link
ppl on the internets are saying Rey is not a trained Jedi, and that Luke was identified as "the last Jedi" in the crawl of VII.
damn, you people aren't even good at this
also, suggestions of"Last Jedi in Paris" "Last Jedi on the Left"
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link
but if Luke trains her!
― Dominique, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
PROOF
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ongcPNTY_Kk/maxresdefault.jpg
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
we all just got sonned by Morbs in an SW thread, I need to go think about things
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link
The Jedi Vanishes
― jmm, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link
Last Jedi in Brooklyn
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link
To Live Jedi In L.A.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
under president trump all the old certainties will be washed away
the skies will turn red, the seas will boil, and dr morbius will stan for judd apatow
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
I don't think we're contradicting that
The Force Awakens: In flashback, Luke has students. None of them make it to jedi level, they all die or disappear off the storyboard, he's back to being the last. Rey seems like she has potential as a new jedi apprentice, film ends with her handing a lightsaber to her potential teacher
The Last Jedi: We already know Luke is the last. What does this title tell us about this movie and not the status quo?
I mean, Return of the Jedi set out the blueprint at the beginning: Yoda tells Luke that only after confronting his father, a jedi... I mean, he will be a jedi. He does that in the climax, then the movie ends
― mh đ, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link
well he did write for Larry Sanders xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
Man, that crawl-text is so bad.
― Frederik B, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
well I hope he's not the last Jedi. That would be sad.
actually, my real shit talk in this thread is to try to find out what George Lucas' ideas for 7-9 actually were. I watched a an '83 Carrie Fisher interview right after she died, and she was talking about not only was Lucas already thinking prequels, but ideas for 7-9, which incldued Han, Leia and their kids looking for a new planet to live on. So I'm thinking there is probably a mostly-fledged Lucas story out there somewhere.
― Dominique, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link
it's supposed to be like late '30s kiddie-serial text, you chump. xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link
well he did write for Larry Sanders
http://elspethcooper.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/placard1.jpg
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link
actually, my real shit talk in this thread is to try to find out what George Lucas' ideas for 7-9 actually were
iirc lucas handed over some ideas to disney after they acquired lucasfilm and kathleen kennedy was like 'lol no'
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link
x-posts: Yeah. And it does it badly. The texts in the original trilogy is so well-written, both of course nonsensical but also really clear about what happened last week. This is just confusing, leaves so many questions to be asked, and the film doesn't really deal all that much with Luke Skywalker anyway...
― Frederik B, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link
He's the plot engine for most of the film!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link
He really isn't.
― Frederik B, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link
I don't think anyone questioned the fact that Luke is, in episode 7 and at the beginning of episode 8, the last Jedi. That much is obvious. But what I was speculating was what the title tells us about the movie if, like the titles of the previous ones, it describes the plot in some way? So that's why I was wondering whether it tells us what it was like for Luke to be the last Jedi until Rey came along, or whether it'll end with his death, leaving Rey to be the last Jedi? I'm thinking the latter, because Star Wars movies have never really used flashbacks.
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
agreed. Not to mention this is the "no, there is another" franchise
― Dominique, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:32 (seven years ago) link
Also, my silly fan theory is that Rey was cloned from the hand Vader cut off of Luke in TESB... If they found the lightsaber the hand was holding, surely they found the actual hand too? Since it was most likely the Empire officers who found it (since they were controlling the Cloud City at that point), I'm sure they did the cloning too. I guess after the fall of the Empire, they decided to make and opposite gender clone to use as a sleeper agent, one who'd infiltrate Luke's new Jedi school and eventually kill him. (If they'd produced a male clone, everyone would notice that he looks just like Luke, so their plot would be revealed.) That would also explain by Rey looks so much like Padme. If she was a clone of Anakin (which is a popular fan theory), she wouldn't look like her.
So in that sense the title is apt, there is only one last Jedi, Luke and his hand, just in two pieces. And Luke has to die so the hand/Rey can create her own destiny,
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link
the hand/Rey!
i would love a cronenbergian star wars movie
― nomar, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link
http://cdn.gowatchit.com/posters/original/movie_3353.jpg
I'm going to assume that Tuomas's theory is NOT the case, since Luke's hand and saber fell out the bottom of Cloud City when he fell onto the antenna (it's shown on screen); and when asked by Han where she got Luke's lightsaber, Maz Kanata replies "That's a story for another time."
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link
Han Solo is close to "hand solo", like "one hand"
might be something to that
― nomar, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
the hand will turn out to be thing from the addams family and the whole saga will be revealed as a 40-year setup for a reboot of the beloved 60s horror sitcom
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
some star wars fan theories are relatively decent, and by the time a movie comes out all of the small leaks from the million pieces of merchandise gives somewhat of a structure to graft things on to
but 99% of them are worse than Twilight fan fiction
― mh đ, Monday, 23 January 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
50 Shades of Grey is a low bar I guess
― ÎáŊĪΚĪ, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
Previous attempts at trying to incorporate Luke's hand into future stories:
https://www.inverse.com/article/21006-luke-skywalker-severed-hand-artwork-fred-palacio
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link
Luke's hand became the prototype for the Terminator hand
― Neanderthal, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link
since Luke's hand and saber fell out the bottom of Cloud City when he fell onto the antenna (it's shown on screen); and when asked by Han where she got Luke's lightsaber, Maz Kanata replies "That's a story for another time."
I just watched this scene, and this is not what happens! First the hand and the saber fall down the pit... Then, a couple of minutes later Luke jumps down it too, but he gets sucked into some sideways exhaustion tube. Neither the hand nor the saber are nowhere to be seen there, so they must've fallen elsewhere. Then a hole opens at the bottom of the tube, and Luke falls down on the antenna, and something falls down from him into the clouds... But that something is clearly his pistol, since before he fell it was in its holster, and when he's grabbing onto the antenna the holster is empty. So that shot of the falling object was just used to illustrate how long the fall down is, not to tell us the ultimate fate of the hand.
Also, if Rey is a clone, it would explain why he gets such strong PSI-imprinted visions from taking Luke lightsaber: she was literally the hand that used to hold it.
― Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link
"Wow the Empire really did strike back""Wow the Jedi really did return""Wow the Force really has awakened"
"Wow the last Jedi really has...uh..."
― nashwan, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link
Sounds like dialogue from Dewey Cox
― THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link
Looking forward to The Next Last Jedi (There Can Only Be One (one more, that is...))
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link
The new really did hope so hard, in your face
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
I think we can all agree that the Phantom truly Menanced
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
the Phantom being the ghost of a good film, of course
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link
I stand by my stance in the prior thread, Luke should at some point say, "I don't recall ever owning a droid" when R2 shows up
― mh đ, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link