the scottish independence referendum

aye but his 1993 mauling of international rugby challenge wis a fuckin belter man

(he should really write his blog in that old computer games magazine house style - ed)

lol, otm

wondering if this is basically true of all opinion joirnalism

spanish govt (i.e. not call-me-dave's wee right wing pal mariano rajoy) said they have no problem with & no objection to an independent scotland, provided independence is achieved w/in the UK constitutional framework. their position is that the spanish constitution doesn't allow for it to happen in spain

our pal rajoy is on the scotnat train, choo choo

As a firm Yes voter I don't feel particularly joyous today at the prospect of a new indyref. I do, however feel even more vehemently in favour of independence than I did two years ago and that's because, sadly, I now loathe the United Kingdom with every fibre of my being. I loathe Westminister. I'd rather be part of a Scotland completely on its arse than be part of this shitshow, no offence to any other ilxors, although Wales can eff off.

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Can the old firm still be in the premier league after scoxit

at least one of them would be out of their depth in the Champo

is scotch antipathy to wales just based on it being too poor and closely tied to england to have a viable stab at independence?

it's the accent iirc

it's the brexit vote iirc. There used to be all sorts of "celts together" bollocks chat until that

I thought the Welsh had quite a decent history of rebellion/striking against the UK, well after Longshanks and up to the 1930's at least.

i imagine some of the welsh brexiters consider their vote a rebellion against the UK establishment

^same as some of the scottish brexit-voters

it's some Gael vs Brython thing imo

what's the world coming to when shared hatred of the english isn't enough to maintain amity between scotland and wales eh

lol well shared hatred of the english never created much amity in in northern ireland tbf

it's some Gael vs Brython thing imo

Doesn't really work though, because the Picts were (most likely) Brythonic. The Scots hate each other so what hope have the Welsh got?

Never noticed any great fellow feeling from Scots towards the Welsh, they're too far away for a start, the Irish are 12 miles away as the craw (sic) flies. There was a Welsh guy lived a few doors down from my Mum, but I think that's about it for the whole of Scotland - can you guess what his nickname was btw?

the toffs vs the taffs would have been a good beano strip if beano hadn't been dundee-based but lampeter, say

The Refrigerator? (xp)

Mark is closer (not Beano tho).

is scotch antipathy to wales just based on it being too poor and closely tied to england to have a viable stab at independence?

I think just being closely tied to England is enough.

I used to love the DC Thompson trolling cartoons in 90's Viz. Like Desperately Unfunny Dan and the one where a kilted DC Thompson character is threatening a market trader selling Little Plums with a "knacking from the sheriff of Dundee".

If memory serves it was 'Wanker Watson' that tipped DCTh over the edge to legal action.

trying here to imagine the young 90s dandy reader who'd angrily stop reading the paper if winker watson* had quietly been retired**

*a strip based round a 50s idea of (at the very latest) the 30s
**why yes i do think this is a discussion germane to this thread

i dunno i think the people making decisions based on third-hand knowledge of an idealised past is kinda what got us into this whole shitstorm in the first place

also the valorisation of cheeky young rule-breakers as the voice of the people -- i mean i love em, but dennis the menace, roger the dodger, minnie the minx and beryl the peril, as embittered grown-ups? ukip every one

truth bomb tbh

breaks my heart

Cd see grown up Beryl the Peril as an EDL Angel tbh

the bash street kids' staunch support of the english defence league was perhaps, in retrospect, inevitable

Despite teacher trying in vain to indoctrinate the class with PC cultural marxist brainwashing.

the neolib multiculturalism of snooty's gang no match for [meteor destroys us all]

Roger the Dodger is more of a floating voter I'd say, NuLab in the 90s and Tory now. Judgement suspended on Biffo the Bear.

xxp With the exception of Cuthbert Cringeworthy, who now runs a digital media consultancy, lives in Walthamstow, has a Leopold II beard and rides a fixed gear bike to work

good for him to be honest

sad abt beryl, who reminds me a lot of my mum

xxp brb doing long Carmody type about significance of Biffo being shunted off front page of Beano in mid-seventies, post Oil-crisis just as the Hayek influenced proto neoliberal new right beginning its takeover of UK institutions

xxxp rather

shunted off in favour of Dennis the Menace

biffo the ruralpolitan

(went for the carmodian deepcut there, sorry robin, i know you've moved on)

Les Pretend - classic Lib Dem

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JMW8yTccNAU/UAMRqMvfS8I/AAAAAAAAH8Q/9-X2Q-oS020/s640/zzap+063.jpg

"Ho Ho! That's the job for me - but I'd better disguise myself first" - Tony Blair, Dave Cameron, T May etc

walter the softy grew up to be jacob rees-mogg

(although i dunno how truly grown-up you can claim to be as an adult man who still has a nanny)

that doesn't work, jacob-rees mogg can't get enough of the ukip menace-types

more like rafael behr (except he sounds as if he's already a character in a different strip)