the scottish independence referendum

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i just googled scottish comic book characters and stumbled across an old blade supporting cast member called 'bible john' which seems a bit uh insensitive

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Want to hear more about DC comics management vs workforce

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

James Butler excellent as usual (ie he agree with me): http://www.huckmagazine.com/perspectives/opinion-perspectives/scotland-eyes-independence-can-nationalism-deliver-progressive-utopia

(even tho i faintly feel his "heaved" in the first sentence would be better as "hoven", tho apparently both are considered correct)

mark s, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link

yeah that piece is excellent

lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:11 (seven years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/208529700

Heavy Doors (jed_), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

it's nice to hear somebody articulate the real arguments for a change

Pengest & Corsa (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

:)

Heavy Doors (jed_), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

tbf if i looked like jim traynor i'd prob hate scotland too

sktsh, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

Sorry y'all there are more exciting things happening.

https://glasgowguardian.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/BB-poster.jpg

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

belden vs milo, no less

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

The 1930s are back baby!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

milo succeeding edward snowden would be a deeply surreal turn of events

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

no way milo wins. would be nice for piss pig grandad to win, he'll probably be locked up when he returns to the states after getting back from syria so the more international exposure of him the better i'd have thought

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

a year ago i'd be assured milo doesn't stand a chance but trump's in the white house and we're leaving the eu so who fucking knows anymore

there's always the possibility canadian transphobe jordan peterson takes it too

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link

well i would say look at the recipients in recent times, not a single controversial right-wing figure

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

there's a decent sized tory rugger bugger constituency at glasgow but that definitely doesn't reflect a majority, and especially not of those involved with nerdy shit like student government and rectorship elections

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

Who's piss pig grandad?,

Heavy Doors (jed_), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

fair play

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Yep

Heavy Doors (jed_), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

he was on the chapo trap house podcast a few weeks ago gigglingly acknowledging that he's knowingly fighting alongside child soldiers

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

Maybe Milo would win at St Andrews? Hell, when I was there they elected Donald Findlay

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:45 (seven years ago) link

Milo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Findlay

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 10:51 (seven years ago) link

let us not forget the tragicomic tale of ross kemp, rector

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:12 (seven years ago) link

They're both shitty people. Although we ran tommy Sheridan against Finlay, which was maybe not the best idea.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:37 (seven years ago) link

Occasionally I'll see a report on some big murder trial in Scotland with Findlay defending and think, "God, is he still around?". Then you realize he was only born in 1851 1951.

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:56 (seven years ago) link

WTF is all this chat that post-Indy Scotland might not try to join the EU? Surely the eurosceptic wing of the SNP isn't that strong, is it?

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link

is it not rather to say that the aim of independence should not now simply be in order to try to be in the eu (although that frame may play better with a lot of your "uncertainty"-focused voters) ?

conrad, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link

I don't really know, because this story has me confused
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15158935.Sturgeon_may_not_offer_to_reverse_Brexit_in_referendum__says_Salmond/?ref=twtrec

Events meanwhile, as May says no ref before Brexit.

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:58 (seven years ago) link

blocking a referendum would seem to me to be literally (not abusing the word here for once) the worst course of action available to the government if they wish to prevent scottish independence

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link

Yes, here's a good article on that very thing. http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/03/16/may-just-handed-nicola-sturgeon-the-greatest-gift

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Can never really tell if Dunt is always OTM or if it's just that I agree with him all the time, but that piece OTM.

BBC and some others saying Tories have been focus-grouping the "not now" line for months and think it will play, but it still seems misguided -- perhaps some people could sell it, but not a nationalist English Prime Minister.

The thing that would really have defanged it, I think, would have been to say "of course have a referendum, but Brexit is hella risky and we can't risk the delicate balance of negotiations so can we negotiate on a date?". But saying Brexit is Risky is the great unsayable thing.

(Well, the thing that would really have defanged all this was actually treating Scotland as a peer; perhaps even putting their ideas to the EU, or at least considering them in hand, but that also was not to be. May is really, really bad at this stuff. Her poll numbers continue to be troubling.)

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Dunt's articles are often OK but he is absolutely catastrophically wrong all the time on Twitter

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

"safe pair of hands at last" when May became PM, "thank god the grown-ups are back" when Blair piped up last time etc etc etc

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link

even when he's right he's a terrible writer

mark s, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

both points also v. true

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link

BBC and some others saying Tories have been focus-grouping the "not now" line for months

Is that ever obvious. Ditto Global Britain.

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

not looking forward to months and months of this stuff

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-43zI3aXu2wI/WMfH-VrOyZI/AAAAAAAAzQc/kR1yH8lKzMk8NK1lJjcqt47vLDxX1Zc3QCLcB/s320/Mail140317.png

soref, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

It was a weirdly helpless Mail splash that; made Sturgeon seem like this amazingly powerful being who *could* put her hands on their Brexit; there was never any suggestion that the Enemies of the People could actually stop it, only that they would moan trying.

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

I guess it's partly about setting up Sturgeon/Scotland to take the blame when Brexit inevitably goes horribly wrong? perfidious alba

soref, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

The Mail's been convinced of wee Nic's superpowers for some time.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBsV6HIWMAE0HC1.jpg

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

That'd be entertaining to watch. "Aye, that was us, sorry, we'll be off then" xp

stet, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

that benefit scroungers/immigrants/the PC police/militant unions/etc are amazingly powerful beings who can't be stopped, only moaned about is the heart of the Mail's worldview, I guess?

soref, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

May makes a v strained expression, particularly in the pauses of her speechifying, that always makes me think "Look at the sex face on this tortoise"

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

deriving quite a lot of satisfaction from seeing the Mail hurl its vitriol at someone basically immune from it. the venn diagram of people Sturgeon needs to win over and Mail readers must be barely existent. I just imagine her cackling and saying OH WELL every time she sees headlines like that.

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link

bc much as the Mail purports to represent the downtrodden people of Real England, its power all stems from attempting to instil fear into politicians, celebrities, even "judges" when they don't toe its line. Dacre must be spitting blood that Sturgeon has beyond reach.

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

*is

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 March 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

To Jed: her posture is lousy; she's got hunchy shoulders and that nose. Political cartoonists should draw her as a vulture wearing a statement necklace.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link


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