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Who the Devil Made It is essential.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:01 (seven years ago) link

also if Wiki is to be believed, he wrote his first book about Welles 9 years before they became friends.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:18 (seven years ago) link

oh gosh

I completely misremembered

it's from this bit of the great outdoor fight

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Akrakabo is really awesome, love the traditional breaking out from behind the modern veil at the end. I think I went back to the 2 minute mark and re-listened to the end 2 or 3 times in a row. Will listen to Accelerate for sure. I don't have much knowledge of Bachata but your comment has me intrigued. i feel like afro pop has a natural lean into the carribean music scene of course, but i would be curious to listen for the links to more classic afro-latin music, perhaps this is already happening? like wizkid-popcaan is a natural fit of course, but what about Wizkid teaming up with Mexican or Columbian pop-stars?

speaking of wizkid, Sweet Love is fantastic, happy to see he stuck with the Yoruba as well. This is maybe my favourite first blush of a Wizkid song, normally he takes a bit for me to really get into. Maybe that bodes well for its shot at breaking out internationally. What do you guys figure his track to a breakout US hit is? Now that he has name recognition from One Dance, does he hope for a streaming hit that breaks though? or would he get enough of a push to get on radio before that? i assume the former, but not sure if he gets a push on radio due to the deal. And does he get on some spotify recommended playlists?

fuckin love Thando Lok'dlala, Nkwz should sing on every SA house song. I feel like DrumeticBoyz have turned a corner toward pop, but managing to stay a bit true to their GQOM roots. I agree longneck, definitely got some of Babes affect on it for sure.

dog latin, are you around? there is new Eddy Kenzo, called Jubilation

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I like it, not as much as Sitya Loss, but another great track, curious to hear from another Kenzo fan

really love this new durban track too, Colours Of Sound - Emuva (feat. SneMusiq). brutal name for the DJ's but this song is getting me thru some cold winter days. feels like driving around a rich neighbourhood and not giving a shit that the folks in it are looking down on you.

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/The fundamental level of these people's unseriousness contrasted with the seriousness of their jobs is fucking mindblowing./

A different story in the Senate, really.

"Itโ€™s true Democrats hold only nine of the 20 seats on the committee, and would only have been able to condition Rosensteinโ€™s approval on his willingness to appoint a special prosecutor if they had stood together and persuaded at least one Republican to join them. But had the parties been reversed, the Republican Party would have formed a united phalanx to demand that Rosenstein, /as a patriotic American/, must look beyond party and promise to give the country a truly independent, non-partisan investigation. There would have been press conferences with all nine senators wearing flag pins and looking stern, a major media offensive asking which Democrat on the committee cared enough about this nation to join them, and possibly the composition of some songs about brave deputy attorneys general.

"Instead, the Democrats only managed some grumbling and a few uncoordinated questions at the hearing."

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/07/senate-democrats-blow-best-chance-to-demand-special-russia-prosecutor๐Ÿ”—/

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:30 (seven years ago) link

^^ No, I don't understand this post either. I was just reading the thread and then the app (or a third man) generated this post.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:11 (seven years ago) link

Thought those were some of Welles' 5x7 dialogue cards : )

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:30 (seven years ago) link

@labuzamovies
The only real concern I see is what Netflix will do with the 35mm. Do they even have a vault?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link

they can use an orange is the new black jail cell set

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

they could invest in a norwegian insane asylum

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Ignatiy V on the 75th anniv of Ambersons

http://www.avclub.com/article/75-years-later-orson-welles-troubled-follow-citize-251171

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...
four months pass...

hfs "My Lunches With Orson" does not disappoint! Dying @ his petty European prejudices ("Sardinians have stubby fingers. Croatians have short necks. Everybody knows these things.")

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

he was OTM about Reagan, Ike, and FDR, fullashit about Renoir, Jimmy Stewart, Bogart.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

is that the Jaglom book?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

Croatians have short necks

"Orson you can't say that"

"Measure them, measure them!"

Number None, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

well it's credited to Biskind (cuz he edited it) but yes it's transcripts of Jaglom's recordings. Which Orson asked him to make (contrary to what is stipulated upthread)

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link

it's just a joy to read, laugh-out-loud funny

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

I'm still waiting for the third volume in paperback of Callow's biography. Hardcovers are beyond my budget atm.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

It's solid, the best critical bio.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

it's odd, prior to this book, outside of his involvement with Easy Rider I had absolutely no knowledge of Jaglom's work. Never heard of it, never seen any of it.

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 9 October 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

jaglom has always skeeved me out viscerally

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 October 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

wiki summaries of his work do not inspire confidence. and the one lunch where Orson gives him notes on one of his screenplays (which sounds fucking awful) his suggestions are 100% better than the crap Jaglom had.

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

I don't think Welles cultivated a group of wormy little fuckers but they certainly sought him out

mh, Monday, 9 October 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Some of Jaglom's films are worth seeing imho - Tracks, Sitting Ducks, Can She Bake a Cherry Pie?, Deja Vu. His debut, A Safe Place, which tries to relocate the nouvelle vague to New York and features a cameo from Welles as a magician in Central Park, is one of the great 'I wish I could have seen the faces of the Columbia executives when they screened this one' movies.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

There's not a lot going on in this interview, but I didn't expect to see Welles and Andy Kaufman together!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrGlWAFy1LU

mh, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link

oh hell yeah, i just stumbled on that video a few weeks ago during an andy kaufman youtube wormhole. so good

flappy bird, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link

well there is something going on, Welles talking to Kaufman about a show he apparently hated doing.

Is Welles subbing for Dinah Shore there? It's obviously not the Carson set (tho I'm p sure OW subbed there too).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link

Merv Griffin show, I think

mh, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link

OK, he was a guest with Griffin a lot (including the evening before he died). The set looks a little too homey for Merv though.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

OK, it is Griffin, per the AV Club...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

well indeed

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:26 (six years ago) link

i wonder if surviving cast member Rich Little was there; I don't see him.

Crispin had a better seat than Tarantella tho!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

pretty interesting ... wonder if it'll actually be good?

tylerw, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Reading the third Callow bio now. Possibly the best of these for me so far, especially since it dives into my fave years of Welles' life. Callow often a laugh out loud funny writer, too.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

I'd read another three

Number None, Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

yeah, me too!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

Reading the third Callow bio now. Possibly the best of these for me so far, especially since it dives into my fave years of Welles' life. Callow often a laugh out loud funny writer, too.

โ€• Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee),

Agreed. The Touch of Evil captures that sense of exhilaration shared by Heston, Leigh, Welles, the supporting cast, and crew who knew they were making something that pushed them beyond their abilities.

The chapter on Olivier and Rhinoceros is grimly funny too.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The radio broadcasts that Orson Welles dedicated to the case of Isaac Woodard, Jr. deserve to be as well known as his War of the Worlds: https://t.co/ort1TjzTFI

— ๐•ฟ๐–—๐–”๐–š๐–‡๐–‘๐–Š ๐•ฐ๐–›๐–Š๐–—๐–ž ๐•ฏ๐–†๐–ž (@NickPinkerton) May 6, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 May 2018 01:49 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

started in on the Callow bio, so far it's pretty great. 99% of the theater references go over my head, but whatever.

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 25 June 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

which volume?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

Volume 1, figured it would be best to start at the beginning!

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 25 June 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link

It's the only one I haven't read.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

Callow's writing has both an acidity and a floridness that I associate with the theater (and also find intermittently silly and charming). Seems pretty perceptive in general though, and his editorial asides are always interesting.

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 25 June 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

Vol. 1 is essential. The preschool genius years, the truth about the semi-mythic trip to Ireland, the triumph of the early Mercury plays and then the first of many disastrous follies with Five Kings. All fascinating stuff.

Oh, and Kane, if you're not bored of that.

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

I tend to skip first volumes. I didn't even read the first part of Caro's LBJ book.

Patrick McGilligan's 2015 bio I did read.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 June 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

I guess I just trust an old luvvie like Callow more on the early years because they're so theatre-focused. Convinced a relative ignoramus like me anyway.

Probably no one needs to read an in-depth examination of every play young Orson produced at the Todd School but I still ate it up

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link

I didn't even read the first part of Caro's LBJ book

lol me too, looked a bit dreary (and is also summarized pretty succinctly in subsequent volumes)

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Monday, 25 June 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

depends how much you're dying to read about young LBJ stealing his high school glee club's election, or whatever

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 25 June 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

starting with like a hundred pages about his great-grandparents or whatever is the ultimate taunt to the undecided reader from Caro

Number None, Monday, 25 June 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link


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