the scottish independence referendum

both points also v. true

BBC and some others saying Tories have been focus-grouping the "not now" line for months

Is that ever obvious. Ditto Global Britain.

not looking forward to months and months of this stuff

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-43zI3aXu2wI/WMfH-VrOyZI/AAAAAAAAzQc/kR1yH8lKzMk8NK1lJjcqt47vLDxX1Zc3QCLcB/s320/Mail140317.png

It was a weirdly helpless Mail splash that; made Sturgeon seem like this amazingly powerful being who *could* put her hands on their Brexit; there was never any suggestion that the Enemies of the People could actually stop it, only that they would moan trying.

I guess it's partly about setting up Sturgeon/Scotland to take the blame when Brexit inevitably goes horribly wrong? perfidious alba

The Mail's been convinced of wee Nic's superpowers for some time.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBsV6HIWMAE0HC1.jpg

That'd be entertaining to watch. "Aye, that was us, sorry, we'll be off then" xp

that benefit scroungers/immigrants/the PC police/militant unions/etc are amazingly powerful beings who can't be stopped, only moaned about is the heart of the Mail's worldview, I guess?

May makes a v strained expression, particularly in the pauses of her speechifying, that always makes me think "Look at the sex face on this tortoise"

deriving quite a lot of satisfaction from seeing the Mail hurl its vitriol at someone basically immune from it. the venn diagram of people Sturgeon needs to win over and Mail readers must be barely existent. I just imagine her cackling and saying OH WELL every time she sees headlines like that.

bc much as the Mail purports to represent the downtrodden people of Real England, its power all stems from attempting to instil fear into politicians, celebrities, even "judges" when they don't toe its line. Dacre must be spitting blood that Sturgeon has beyond reach.

*is

To Jed: her posture is lousy; she's got hunchy shoulders and that nose. Political cartoonists should draw her as a vulture wearing a statement necklace.

xxxp

I'd put money that she has that 'Most dangerous woman in Britain' cover framed in her office.

Angela Eagle on Question Time saying that Sturgeon's decision to call for a referendum is "mischievous", and complaining about "the politics of grievance at a time when we all need to come together", this does not seem like a winning strategy.

"the politics of grievance" is such nonsensical hackneyed drivel, but after previous performances it has become quite clear that she is almost tragically hollow and vacuous - even by a very low bar set by the PLP.

when will they give up the coming together shit

Not a single mention of Northern Ireland in any Brexit discussions: it was all 'England, Wales, Scotland'.

They don't want to think about it tbh.

come together come together come together come together come together come together come together come together come together come together come together come together

Over me.

I voted no last time and now I think just burn it down. Fuck them.

sturgeon's open invitation: "scotland isn't full"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nicola-sturgeon-snp-conference-come-to-scotland-independence-brexit-a7637106.html

Paisley in the New York Times, wid ye credit it?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/world/europe/scotland-independence-paisley.html

I really like how the photographer / photo editor for that story managed to find something in bright blue in every shot except the skyline

fake blues

Thanks for that article. Paisley can be pretty grim and I don't like having to go there sometimes.

i clicked on the link bcz my that-could-never-happen-ometer is broken and i thought tom was saying ian paisley jr was repping for scottish independence

Everywhere can be pretty grim but pretty lovely too. Lots of my favourite people live there and there's a lot of beautiful buildings in that town.

some very beautiful architecture. suffers even more than most places from the flight of retail from the high street with the proximity of both silverburn and braehead, which can make actually being in paisley town centre seem a little pointless other than to see the sights. some rough schemes, but you can say that about most places in the greater glasgow conurbation

also don't forget the importance of paisley in the history of tort law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donoghue_v_Stevenson

Scotland breaking up UK is a much bigger deal than UK leaving EU in so many ways. Of course this is all Labour's fault, once again, as was Brexit vote. They've managed to sow seeds of internal division in 2 countries in the space of 10 years, quite an achievement.

I really like how the photographer / photo editor for that story managed to find something in bright blue in every shot except the skyline

Yeah, that is great. The panoramic shot of the whole town reminds me of one of the things I missed most when I moved to London, which was not being able to look up, into distance, and see hills and mountains - sometimes with snow on them.

Central Scotland really has that big sky. My Greek friend is obsessed with Glasgow sky. And yes tom, from my flat I can see hills south and north but I'm right in the city.

Paisley in the New York Times, wid ye credit it?

Morrisons would.

Scotland breaking up UK is a much bigger deal than UK leaving EU in so many ways. Of course this is all Labour's fault, once again, as was Brexit vote. They've managed to sow seeds of internal division in 2 countries in the space of 10 years, quite an achievement.

Quite an achievement to cram so much shite into three short sentences.

Yea, that's absolute nonsense.

Labour is fucked in Scotland but they're not the cause of anything, north of the border. The United Kimgdom is over. Gordon Bown's new suggestions are hilariously awful. It's completely baffling that someone of intelligence (and I think he's smart) would work so hard at wrangling this stupid solution. I've no idea what he likes so much about the uk that justifies his... Jerrymandering isn't the right word. But it's something similar. What's the word?

that was some quality trolling from the noob, hope they've got some strong opinions about music too

Paisley in the New York Times, wid ye credit it?

Morrisons would.
― Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 01:07 (eight hours ago)

I was going to make this exact same joke but thought it was too obscure.

It was almost too obscure for me, had to Google to confirm.

I'm certain that photo of the Paisley skyline is taken from Robertson car park, aka the car park in the sky, which is by day a nice place to look at the view beside a childrens play area, and by night is a popular drug-dealing and dogging spot.

is paisley nice

ULSTER SAYS NO

It's better than Renfrew, if nothing else.

as long as cowdenbeath exists other scottish towns will always look better by comparison

As a resident of Renfrew I would like to disagree with Tom's statement there, but I can't.

When I discovered there was a really nice area in Barrhead (Gateside Road), it was like opening a portal into an alternate world.

i do miss that skyline, you can see the campsie fells well from a variety of places around glasgow e.g. from the queens park flagpole.

growing up my grandparents lived in the shadow of the most westerly hill in the campsies - which is in that picture - dumgoyne

the unicode Emoji 5.0 list contains separate flags for England, Scotland and Wales:

http://emojipedia.org/emoji-5.0/

yes