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A sitting MP as editor of a major newspaper wtf wtf wtf

stet, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link

she'd withdraw the whip, effectively booting him out the party, thinking being the shame would do it then xp

stet, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:52 (seven years ago) link

thinking being the shame would do it then

good luck with that

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:54 (seven years ago) link

lol i think that wd be to misjudge the psychology of the man

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:54 (seven years ago) link

adding: he'd have the perfect platform to wage war on her via a "fight for his rights" (or some such piffle)

lol it's like lord stansgate all over again

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:55 (seven years ago) link

I would love to be a fly on the wall of the Standard office right now.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link

"What am I? Fucked bacon?!"

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7567532.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Theresa-May.jpg

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link

May giving a foretaste of her contempt for parliament by having a shit on the front bench

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:01 (seven years ago) link

Standfirst of Buzzfeed's story: One Standard insider said: “No one can believe it. I feel like I’ve been shot.”

https://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/former-chancellor-george-osborne-will-be-the-editor-of-the?utm_term=.rhnGxpGKG#.heaQ25QeQ

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:01 (seven years ago) link

if you've held one of the great offices of state i think you should be compelled afterwards to retire to your farm or be shot up to you

conrad, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:03 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/gordonrayner/status/842703932564606976

"Email to Standard staff explains that Osborne will edit the paper in the morning, then head over to the Commons in the afternoon. REALLY???"

Fizzles, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:04 (seven years ago) link

if you've held one of the great offices of state i think you should be compelled afterwards to retire to your farm or be shot up to you

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:07 (seven years ago) link

4 days a month at Blackrock, plus the McCain institute gig...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_-8SS1LS_c

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:10 (seven years ago) link

lol at all a million "[politician x] to become editor of [_______]" response tweets, not one of them funny

also lol david allen green pedantically explaining that MPs have often been editors before now and citing the spectator in evidence

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link

This is more the GGO's thing I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoGofvVhKTo

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:13 (seven years ago) link

the way david allen green he says "this is the sound of the constitution working" one more time there's an egregious political steamrollering of generally accepted interpretations of how legislature/executive/judiciary works and people are up in arms would try the patience of a saint.

Fizzles, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:17 (seven years ago) link

i actually still think DLG is quite useful as someone explaining complex issues of law and its procedures clearly, but his grasp of how politics impinges on this and manipulates it is pitiful

(haha i snarked abt this on twitter two days ago and he retweeted me saying "quite" and then must have reread my tweet and realised i was being snarky, bcz he deleted his)

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:21 (seven years ago) link

Jack-off C**t more like lol

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:23 (seven years ago) link

Kind of intrigued by what his game is here, I mean there's clearly more going on then "I fancy editing a newspaper" and I don't think he's really required to make Labour look like a shambles right now. Chipping away at May's authority and/or casting himself as the leader of Tory Remain/Return has to be in his thinking here.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:23 (seven years ago) link

lol at all a million "[politician x] to become editor of [_______]" response tweets, not one of them funny

This amused me:

@Ed_Miliband 30m30 minutes ago

Breaking: I will shortly be announced as editor of Heat magazine....

Matt DC, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:26 (seven years ago) link

Fair enough, me too -- but it's funny bcz "bless him, he's still game" plus "if only he'd been this salt two years ago". The actual choice of title is kinda random.

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:31 (seven years ago) link

Thought it just about worth noting that Liz Kendall implied UKIP are far-right on This Week and Andrew Neil not only indignantly questioned her on it but appeared to deny there was no far-right political movement in the UK at all. The Express is pearl-clutchingly incredulous at her suggestion and commends Neil for the "SLAP DOWN". Don't like it up 'em.

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:40 (seven years ago) link

"In 1993, Osborne intended to pursue a career in journalism. He was shortlisted for but failed to gain a place on The Times trainee scheme

yes, the person who did get the place Osborne applied for was Carole Cadwalladr, I remember her writing a piece in the Observer about it.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:47 (seven years ago) link

if you've held one of the great offices of state i think you should be compelled afterwards to retire to your farm or be shot up to you

― conrad, Friday, March 17, 2017 8:03 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 March 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Nashwan I watched that too (I almost always do), thought the same thing.

Also: I know it shouldn't be news that Portillo is unpleasant, but (given his media rehabilitation, etc) I am sometimes surprised by it -- his behaviour last night a prime example, I hope you'll agree.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

Kind of intrigued by what his game is here, I mean there's clearly more going on then "I fancy editing a newspaper" and I don't think he's really required to make Labour look like a shambles right now. Chipping away at May's authority and/or casting himself as the leader of Tory Remain/Return has to be in his thinking here.

― Matt DC, Friday, March 17, 2017 12:23 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this - or at least the idea that obviously he has an ulterior political motive - is why I'm just, idk, flabbergasted that a sitting MP is allowed to edit a newspaper

lex pretend, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link

the period we're living through is "oligarchs vs norms who will win?"

also, you know, the crack-up of the union is going to spew out a LOT of residual stuff from how politics was in the 18th (and 17th) century

i don't believe there's laws or rules against it per se -- conflict of interest yes, but that is going to become a battle of interpretations before a committee if osborne digs his heels in, while the sanction of his constituents against an absentee mp is voting the bum out at the next election

if he has his eye on a way back to PM-ship (maybe via the mayorship when that becomes free), i don't think GO has much to lose tbh -- this is yet another flaming car driven into the pile of wreckage from another angle

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

upside: we could still end with heads on poles

downside: wrong heads

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link

suspect there will be pushback from murdoch, rothermere and the barclays

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:42 (seven years ago) link

I would be happy to cheer on Parliament passing an entirely cynical "Fuck George Osborne March 2017" bill proclaiming that you can't edit a paper and sit as an MP.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

I am glad that one person has taken up my flaming car metaphor.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

There is no way that TM would seek to stop GO being an MP.

The point about GO trying to be Mayor is an angle though. I hadn't thought of it. It fits with the ES. But I think he is too unpopular among many Londoners and I don't see that changing fast enough (or ever) for this to work.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link

the problem is we don't make flaming cars in britain any more

conrad, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link

he looked coked out of his mind when he was on the bbc news earlier talking about this

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link

a+ work conrad

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

Didn't know the owner of the ES looks like Ant & Dec & the bearded version of Action Man merged into one.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Evgeny+Lebedev+wdMmiW4Se9Xm.jpg

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Evgeny+Lebedev+wdMmiW4Se9Xm.jpg

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

the period we're living through is "oligarchs vs norms who will win?"

s/b "oligarchs vs norms WHICH will win?" as i meant political/social/moral norms not the kinds of norms momus wd sneer at

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

xp Evgeny "Two Beards" Lebedev © Private Eye

Neil S, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

perennial private eye favourite evgeny 'two beards' lebedev

https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/03/02/10/lebedevcr0.jpg

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

'two beards' jinx

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

(2 beards)²

Neil S, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

He's Elton's beard now.

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

An extremely well-respected critic for one of his papers gave yer Rocket Man a panning, and he went running to Lebedev to insist the writer be fired. Lebedev fired the writer. CUNT.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

thinking abt this a bit more:

i: i think lebedev is going to get creamed for the decision, by the various mouthpieces of his rival oligarchs: also the FT and the guardian (which already ran a p funny take-down by marina hyde)
ii: however i think we are so far into wtf mode in every respect that this may not deter him in the short run
iii: in the long run it's really hard to see how the standard sustains the issues that arise (quite apart from anything else, it has respected city journalists read by the city on a daily basis -- they don't want compromised fluffwork from a blackrock shill) (it will not be taken seriously by these readers if they imagine into is being massaged) (reputation once lost v hard to regain)
iv: have also read (eg stephen bush) saying it's problematic for GO's return to front-bench politics -- unless he seriously reigns in/steps on the ES's role in political gossip he makes it quite hard to maintain or develop alliances w/other sitting MPs, very much needed to become leader or anyway regain heft
v: not sure this latter will deter GO, who may be in go-for-broke damage-may and imagine he can later magic into existence what's later needed -- also i'm not sure we are in enough of an era where normal assumptions apply
vi: tho i have said for a while i don't think GO was as damaged by brexit as cam, i have never considered him a mightily adept pol
vii: entirely unrelatedly, coke and crystal meth are a hell of a drug combo

mark s, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

Although he was not reappointed as Chancellor after May became PM, there is no particular evidence, that I have seen, that GO is strongly motivated by a desire to do anything to Theresa May.

He is a Conservative and one of his first loyalties will be to the Conservative Party, of which she is currently leader.

Beyond that, he is extremely rich and well connected and perhaps he actually doesn't care much about May or UK politics anymore.

the pinefox, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/842713111484383233

soref, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link

hello darkness my old friend

nxd, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

There's also the question of how long the Standard realistically has left as something read by a mostly decreasing number of bored commuters, bored LT staff and cabbies. If it makes it to the next GE and/or outlasts May's Premiership Lebedev and the six jobbed hard hatted bellend with barely any journo experience he just had to have might settle for that. Or this is just my hapless wishful thinking as usual (if online only by that point perhaps it simply merges with Leb's other organ to form The Indepentard).

nashwan, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link


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