Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

exit from india was also horrible but worst impact very much not on brits

yeah i don't think the French equalled the carnage we caused but their empire was considerably smaller

also possibly the american intervention in vietnam kinda took the spotlight off

I can still recall seeing a map that showed the peak British Empire in an infant school classroom in the 70's, very vague memory but I definitely saw one. But I suppose this was only 10-15 years after the Kenyan atrocities.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/17/theresa-may-allies-accuse-george-osborne-plotting-undermine/

http://static.newworldencyclopedia.org/thumb/2/28/British_Empire_1897.jpg/788px-British_Empire_1897.jpg

1897 was empire at greatest extent iirc

ruddy shame how canada and nigeria never really got the hang of cricket

said to be a third of earth's landmass tho quite a lot of that must have been big empty islands in what's now nunavut

would love to roam baffin island during waterbird breeding season tbh

in zoot suit and panama hat, ordering my native underlings about with my cases

it's quite cold dude

The scale on that map doesn't look quite right somehow.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cyCg6QtW9_c/TT1vvDgqUwI/AAAAAAAABGQ/3zMLJX1rYo0/s400/uk_india_extract.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Mercator.jpg

blame him^^^ not me

Making the Colonies and Dominions appear smaller than they are and the hulking Russian Empire seem bigger at that point in history would probably make sense.

I like Ed Miliband a lot.

I don't mind him personally, but I just certainly wouldn't vote for the cunt or any of his type ever again though. And every time they play footage of his election campaign it is toe-curlingly bad, he was only up against Cameron with his sleeves rolled up ffs!

Well, who can beat Cameron, or May, or anyone else, at the moment? If anyone has any good ideas we could do with them.

I like Ed Miliband a lot.

his twitter groove at the moment is brilliant.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/introducing-ed-miliband-20-king-twitter-burn/

Well, who can beat Cameron, or May, or anyone else, at the moment? If anyone has any good ideas we could do with them.

As someone with a kid with autism and a partner with MS I'm more concerned with the politics of self-preservation at the moment, like beating them at any cost doesn't mean anything to me at all. I appreciate you have your own vantage point and concerns, but these are mine.

But trying to reason with a poster who thinks the BBC gets a hard time and thinks Tristam Hunt deserves respect. Why fucking bother?

Well, who can beat Cameron

pinefox van winkle lol

Tim Farron accuses Theresa May of having same 'aggressive nationalistic' agenda as Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin

Has he failed to rule out a coalition with them as well?

Beat me to the punch there.

i was wondering whether he realised this is the USP for a lot of her supporters

anyone know of any good UK politics podcasts?

http://podcast.novaramedia.com/

^^^from the "aftermath of occupy" perspective -- and more engagé than cool and q

oops, more energetically engagé than cool and quizzical surveys of the political scene -- i actually find both their main commentators (aaron bastani and james butler) a bit bumptious on-screen and prefer to read than watch or listen, but that's as much to do with my age and tastes i think

http://i.imgur.com/PFmHoHi.png

Untie the bUnion = a pun (kind of) on "Unite the Union", I guess? is "Foot problems" supposed to be some sort of reference to Michael Foot? Confusing.

You don't untie bunions either afaik

generally a sign of a bad political cartoon is little labels on parts of it explaining the allegory by saying "the national debt" or "latvia's refusal to sign the bilateral treaty in 1837" or whatever

in this one the labels make NOTHING clearer (tho i am glad to learn the doctor's sleeve is anti-corbyn i guess)

inept political cartoons are some of my favourite things in the world

Where'should that one from? Stone cold classic. Actually, it'seems probably a pis stake from some left twitter dude browse isn'the it

Thank u auto correct

I saw it posted (multiple times) by some odd twitter account belonging to a self-described "English Nationalist", I think he's on the level (or else very committed to not breaking character). it looks like it's a re-purposing of this cartoon, which is still not funny but at least comprehensible:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/fashion-foot-podiatrists-foot_specialists-consultants-foot_doctors-gshn156_low.jpg

(lol at taking the time to crop out the cartoonist's signature. poor Genevieve.)

"That's not what a Thai foot massage means."

Best possible. :(

podiaTRICKS amirite

thanks for reccomendation mark, will check that out

is the New Statesman podcast with Stephen Bush and Helen Lewis any good? Bush's writing always seems very insightful/interesting, generally not as impressed by what I've seen from Lewis.

to be honest i have avoided watching it in case my confidence in SB evaporates: i too have a low opinion of HL

What's britilx view of mcguinness

Very clever man.

mixed

There is a horrible anecdote going around from the son of the founder of NI Mencap (a music editor of 30+ years' standing) that McGuinness said some very cruel, fairly eugenecist things about his learning-disabled brother, to his father's face. :-((

i'd say he has a few skeletons in the closet alright.

for a "Marxist" I'm sure he had some unenlightened views on quite a few things

not sure the provos were marxists (tho maybe he said he was, i don't know)

the marxist orgs were the OIRA (the "stickies") and the INLA

nah I was confusing/assuming, thanks for clarification

re deems' question: serious peace negotiations never need to be conducted between friends or, well, nice people

any end to war that isn't total defeat for one side means hostile murderous arseholes sitting down together at the peace table… and some arseholes turn out to be good at getting others to do the same

(which is obviously very easy to say from where i'm sitting: i know the person suzy's referring to, we used to work together, and, well, the price of peace being a general forgiveness you have no personal control over must be very hard to swallow)