it's ok to watch things you might like
if you end up liking it we can walk you through how to post positive opinions
― mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
tiresomely self aggrandising with a dash of good comedy chops
accurate
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
you read the wrong threads, I am positive about all sorts of shit
darragh otm
I'm overly into comics garbage and the amount of joy I get from watching each progressive ensemble cast Marvel movie has bottomed out but Ant Man was fun
― mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
Peyton Reed comes from more of a comedy background so it gives everything a certain rhythm and flair. These two scenes alone are worth the price of admission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUFx_Ltjn8
― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
Wife and I gave this a shot too a couple of weeks ago despite being extremely superhero-movie-averse. Gave up after about an hour, don't remember exactly what I said upon switching it off but it was the equivalent of DDDOOOONNN'TTTT CAAARRREEE. Same was true with Avengers and Deadpool, then again I liked Nolan's Batman flicks so I know I'm a real outlier here. Idk, I really do try to not be a snob about anything pop culture but I just find this shit to be aggressively stupid.
― evol j, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
the first two Nolan Batman flicks are fine
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link
first two X-Men movies are fine too
Fine is overpraise for the first and incorrect on second batman flicks
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
rly want to watch dr strange just havent gotten around to it
rudd is a mixed bag
definitely netflixing or torrenting both
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link
We watched Dr Strange the other night. I was disappointed. Way too much origin story, and I didn't get why Strange was the chosen one or whatever. He seemed impatient, arrogant, etc. which makes me think he wouldn't be good at learning the ways of magick. Also, the usual MCU sense of humor seemed out-of-place in Dr Strange.
Ant Man was good, though. The Thomas scene slayed me.
― DJI, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link
Ant-man had the good sense not to take itself seriously, but that only made its villain problem worse, imo. Wow, another crazy military guy who wants to use the technology to take over the world ...
Dr. Strange, if anything, didn't take itself seriously enough, imo, and for a movie set on a cosmic scale spent a little too much time on redundant fights between Strange and the same 3 bad guys. Liked the evil cosmic villain, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
i saw this last weekend, it was pretty awesome. the kaliedoscopic effects were really cool. i also liked the ending. how they won that final battle was pretty clever.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link
one cool trick
― mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link
I didn't get why Strange was the chosen one or whatever. He seemed impatient, arrogant, etc.
well tbf at the end of the movie he still didn't get what he initially went searching for
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
Yeah the arc bothers me more, looking back on the film. He doesn't really have to grow or change at all, he just chooses a different career. The idea must be that, oh, see, he sacrifices himself over and over, the old Strange wouldn't do that. But he knows he's got it all figured out and he expects to come out okay in the end, so we're still in smug Iron Man territory. He'd be a much more interesting and distinctive character going forward if his thing was he is brought to do real introspection and soul-searching, he becomes humble in some real way. But actually everything pays off his assumption that he's the greatest at everything for no reason. Doctor Privilege.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link
I like how there's this template for british actors to just mimic Hugh Laurie's approximation of an american accent
― mh 😏, Thursday, 23 March 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link
I have to say, I think that's a pretty shallow reading of it. He's not the same man at the end as the start, and it's important to spot that the solution to the final confrontation is to threaten Dormammu with an eternity with Stephen Strange - he has belatedly reached the wisdom to realise that he's an absolute weapons-grade asshole.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 March 2017 00:52 (seven years ago) link
Lashing him with that accent for eternity
― mh 😏, Friday, 24 March 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link
forgot this thread existed, posted this to Rolling MCU
Doctor Strange is a very good looking nothing-burger of a movie
Rachel McAdams as Christine Palmer was the most memorable character, I think. Certainly the only one I actually sort of cared about, and they didn't even bother to put her in any peril other than having an astral punch-up sort of knock some things around. They somehow got Mads Mikkelsen to be a terrible, boring villain who strides so purposefully everywhere he goes it's like an inside joke we're not in on.
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 16:48 (seven years ago) link
any credit for christine palmer has gotta go 100% to rachel mcadams cuz man that was one terribly underwritten and one-dimensional character. mcadams is the real magician in this movie imo *arches eyebrow mystically*
― tony orlandoni, cheese engineer (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 27 March 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link
I really enjoyed this movie despite Strange effectively being played as "Tony Stark, genius surgeon"
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 27 March 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link
tbh all smart, egotistical white men with facial hair are pretty interchangeable
― mh 😏, Monday, 27 March 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
Says himself huh
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link
who you calling smart
― mh 😏, Monday, 27 March 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Relatively for an American is the implicit
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:32 (seven years ago) link
It was a good thing that they didn't put her in danger btw
White male wealthy superheros are more than their relationships with women
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link
terribly underwritten and one-dimensional character
they all were though
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
I demand full realism from stories involving astral planes and time spells.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link
100% to rachel mcadams in scrubs basically the whole movie
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 20:43 (seven years ago) link
Realism isn't the issue tho, is it?
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link
The characters were drawn well enough to string the story along. I didn't really care about any of them except McAdams and Ejiofor but it didn't affect my enjoyment of the movie.
― Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link
Strange himself was such a shitty person that i am glad they didn't plumb the depths of his character.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
It's only a character
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
the movie worked for what it was, a big budget cartoon of mysticism. closer to Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 than Autobiography of a Yogi. if you tried to add much substance to it, it would have all collapsed.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 27 March 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
Strange pre-mystical rebirth or whatever in the og comics *was* an arrogant, shitty person. I thought this did a good job of delivering the origin story along with some fun eyeball kicks. As far as Marvel movie villains I thought Mads was no better or worse than, say, Loki. My fave MVV so far has been Red Skull because ... a red Nazi skeleton guy is just gonna be cooler and more evil than, say, CGI Josh Brolin. Rachel McAdams is a pretty terrible actress so I was glad her role wasn't that substantial.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link
That's an awful lot of wrong packed in to a pretty short post u must practice
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
Nah you just disagree but that's par for the course
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link
Par for the course takes practice tbf
― The night before all about day (darraghmac), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
It had a Ditko blacklight dimension and everyone did their best to not bust up when they said "Dormammu". Featured egregious collar popping, not sure if the Wand of Watoomb got a mention, but with the aforementioned already there I'm not sure what there was to complain about.
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
Definitely mentioned wand of watoomb, in the little sparring / relic exposition bit in the middle.
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
You guys are right, this did indeed contain numerous things that came from the comics and were referred to by name, and many parts of it were watchable or even entertaining! Obviously no big budget cartoon type movie has ever featured memorable villains, developed female characters, or a paid-off arc for the protagonist, so I really don't know what I was thinking to suggest that it could have been improved in any respect.
― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Monday, 27 March 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
I guess I could nitpick more about things I'd have liked to see, but I thought it was pretty entertaining and well put together. I thought this one seemed to have more potential to go badly than some of the other Marvel productions, so I was pretty happy to see how it came out. If they can manage to do a second installment that improves on this I think it ought to be pretty good.
― PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 27 March 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link
The MCU films have frequently allowed the talent to be talented instead of letting the sfx be the point of the movie, so when this one completely wastes Mads Mikkelsen As A Supernatural Psychopath and also pretty much wastes Benedict Cumberbatch as An Arrogant Brainiac while an actual red CGI cape steals multiple scenes is not actually a reversion to form here, it's a letdown.
Given how the Avengers movies, the Winter Soldier, Ant-Man and Guardians turned out, I fully support the way Feige is trying to use different directors with different genre backgrounds to try and keep these movies fresh. Handing Strange to the guy who remade The Day The Earth Stood Still starring Keanu Reeves looks almost like a guaranteed misfire in retrospect.
It was certainly watchable, nothing was so stupid that I actually groaned, but I thought the Doctor Strange movie was intended to add some extra heft to the COSMIC nature of the Infinity War stuff that's coming up, and instead it made it feel completely featherweight.
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link
also this has been beaten to death everywhere but Tilda as the Ancient One was dumb as balls on eighty-two different balls-dumbness dimensions that I can see from here without even a sling ring
― Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link
haha
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8gzkhHW0AEQLux.jpg:large
― Οὖτις, Monday, 3 April 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link
The training and discovering tripping balls parts early on were good, the action later on was pretty dull, but I think that about just about every superhero movie, barring Deadpool and GOTG (which was relatively light in the one-on-one combat IIRC). Maybe you just can't have the right kind of stakes to action in a PG-13 blockbuster to make it interesting to me.
(I'm also bored senseless by high-concept martial arts movies like Crouching Tiger, which feels closest to MCU fight choreography.)
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 3 April 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link
Much as I did find a lot of enjoyment in this film, Crouching Tiger blows it away on pretty much every level.
It's amazing to me how many of the film's problems come down to the thing everybody knows is a problem with all these movies: hustling to cram in a first "villain" story keeps yielding blah, underwritten and non-memorable villains (incidentally wasting fun actors who could otherwise have left a real mark on the series), while crowding out payoff for all the interesting character work. Cut every scene with "Kaecilius" (had to look it up) and you gain soooooo much time for more genuinely awesome trippy freak-outs, and real development of the McAdams and Ejiofor character relationships. You still can have all the Inception kung fu (just quickly establish that Dormammu has some powerful magic henchmen), and the time-stop/time-loop ending (which is the villain confrontation people are ACTUALLY going to remember from this film, even though Dormammu requires only seconds to be the nonentity that Mikkelsen portrays over acres of footage).
― long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Monday, 3 April 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link
damn now i wanna live in the universe where there's a bowie/jodorowsky doc strange movie
― stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 April 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link
it def woulda been more interesting than this limp pile
― Οὖτις, Monday, 3 April 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link