Rolling Brexit Links/UK politics in the neo-Weimar era

tbh given johnny rotten's thumbs up they shd have projected it in this form on dover cliffs

exiting the eu allows uk to pursue socialism glabally

lal

gunter glieben glauten glaben

ich möchte glauben

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/03/29/theresa-may-world-needs-eu-values-sdg-orig.cnn

Labour's Kelvin Hopkins tells Theresa May he is celebrating Article 50 as it will "make possible the socialist future" he has always wanted.

I do not get these lexiteers at all. Is he delusional? Whatever the future, Labour's chance of handing Britain an socialist future are zero iirc.

Christ. Arguably more deluded than the 'Empire 2.0' lot on the other side of the floor ...

i get that it's delusional, particularly now, and that this isn't the way to go about fixing things, but (t'other) alan johnson's critiques of europe in the linked article wayyy up there sound entirely accurate to me. the eu is locking generations of europeans into misery and hardship as a structural feature of the system.

Thornberry the only Labour frontbencher joining in the lolz there.

and it's THOSE 'values' theresa may has in mind in that video, imo

xpost

A friend has made this... thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotgKFPBqrA

even if the worst comes to pass and we arrive at some insane far-right dystopia surely this would result in European nations marching hand in hand to defeat infidels in the Middle East long before they'd turn on each other?

Absolutely. I mean there were a few friendly scuffles between European countries during the Crusades of course, but nothing major.

The Guardian has an article on leave voters in my current place of residence, which contains possibly one of the dumbest quotes I've ever read:

Joy proudly tells of how his family goes back all the way to Hastings in the 11th century. “The concept of being governed by an unelected body would have been absolutely abhorrent to anyone in those days.

surely satire

lol what the shit

this is the kind of thing you'd be looking for if you were graun journo talking to leave dafties, mustve been manna from heaven for the journo

isn't it the dim echo of a norman yoke argument? it was a fairly commonplace belief in the 18th and 19th century that society before the arrival of william the bastard (in the late 11th century) was free and lovely and democratic if you were of yeoman anglo-saxon stock

(it's a confused belief: dan snow off of the telly recently taught me that the normans ended anglo-saxon slavery when they invaded)

oh joy

what did the normans ever do for us

http://www.historytoday.com/marc-morris/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds

^^^they did this

isn't it the dim echo of a norman yoke argument? it was a fairly commonplace belief in the 18th and 19th century that society before the arrival of william the bastard (in the late 11th century) was free and lovely and democratic if you were of yeoman anglo-saxon stock

seems unlikely, his surname is Joy, which assuming that's the family he traces back to the 11th century, comes from French, so he'd be a Norman.

All reminds me I just bought The Wake and am soon to read it, seems a relevant work for these times

on that Dan Snow BoH program when it kept showing the two historians jauntily talking up their chances of victory from a William/Harold tactical POV - it wasn't good.

lol he's covering his tracks! like when the prison guards dress as prisoners as the liberating army arrives over the hill

anyway, some of the mythological detritus of 18th and 19th century radical activism has ended up in anti-EU rhetoric, esp.as you find it in towns with a lot of old history (and lots of crankish self-taught amateur historians)

xp there were three historians! harald hardrada had one too

his surname is Joy

Week is just full of them.

Corbyn confirms that Labour would vote in parliament against a Brexit deal if it does not meet the party’s six tests. But he says he does not want the UK to leave without a deal, and insists it would be in everyone’s interests to continue the talks.

You can smell the skin of that banana from here.

Oh ffs, not bananas again.

The Guardian has an article on leave voters in my current place of residence, which contains possibly one of the dumbest quotes I've ever read:

Shoulda stayed in Walthamstow. Or gone to Specsavers.

The bloke in the top photo in that article is so rooted in the 70s that he's wearing a Superstars t shirt.

xp idg the Specsavers ref, but I do need a new pair of glasses actually. I wouldn't go to Specsavers for them though, I've done that before and they were shite.

Can't afford Walthamstow any more which is why we had to move somewhere cheaper.

hastings residents possibly keen to revive their once thriving smuggling industry

One in the eye for Remoaners etc

the words "great repeal bill" contain the essence of everything horrendous and terrifying about theresa may.

it's about time they pulled their fingers out and brought back the Corn Laws, I'm sick of these foreigners coming over here with their cheap corn

Yes, this Bill seems and sounds awful.

just adding the word "great" to it, like to make it similar to the great war or the great british bakeoff, everyone join in, the great repeal bill is here, it won't be easy but we'll all muddle through in the end! we always do!

anything in history called 'the great' is invariably shit. the great war, the great depression, the grest fire of london, all rubbish. not to mention great britain.

xp ha yep

the tories are their own brand of innocent smoothie.

https://hat4uk.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/workie211015.png

a kinder, cuddlier iron fist which which to crush the poor

emmy the great

grebt repeal bill

"Hey everyone! It's Workie, the workplace pensions mascot!"
"Workers are disposable cogs in our glorious neo-liberal economy!"
"YAY WORKIE!"

the words "great repeal bill" contain the essence of everything horrendous and terrifying about theresa may.

OTM. What's Disraeli saying about it?

workie the workplace pensions mascot says: 'lol you'll never be able to retire you fucking peon, you'll die alone in the poorhouse and be fed to the dogs'

retiring makes workie sad!

I think the fact that it sounds like Great Reform Bill is one of the things I hate about it.

I very much agree with the hatred for the name Great Repeal Bill, expressed here.

And probably its content and effect, too.

Question: people were talking recently about a blog about 'Jolyons' -- I did not see the link -- can someone post it?

Holy hell at Workie.

Millwall Britain sounds like a keeper.