Hawaii classic or dud

headed to aunt's place on the big island at the end of June!

The lava flows have been going crazy lately. Should still be a great time to go see it by boat or on foot when you're here :)

I'm idly curious to see the destruction wrought by the lava in Pahoa since the last time we were there. dunno if we'll get around to where the lava's actually hitting the ocean in the south (assuming that's still going on)

I didn't get a chance to take one when I visited last year, but I've heard good things about the guided lava tours around the Pahoa area, in case you'd like to seek them out.

Most tourist destinations attract tourists because they are naturally attractive places, which is classic. But tourists generate their own atmosphere and where they congregate in the greatest numbers suffers degradation in proportion. This is like a law of the universe.

I'll keep it in mind, at the moment we just bought our plane tickets and are trying to figure out where to stay next. We'll be there for 8 days, I think, with half of that spent at my aunt's in Kohala, but I think the other four days we'll probably stay somewhere near Hilo, idk have to look around

xp

As for places around Hilo, I would try to stay in the Volcanoes National Park area b/c that is forever my favorite natural place in the islands. Note sure if that's too distant from Hilo for you tho, it depends on your itinerary.

xp Agree that tourism inevitably is exploitative.

You might not expect the NYT to publish something that reductive and ignorant

isn't that basically what they do about everything, including their local coverage? IIRC we have a few threads on it

maybe just need a rolling "NYT is dumb #6590728340 in a series" thread

I'd like to visit hawaii one day though.

You're probably right. I've only read their more journalistic news stuff, not so much the lifestyle stuff. Anyway you should come visit some time.

shakey - highly recommend a day trip to Waipio Valley:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waipio_Valley

http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/content/rare-look-waipio-valley-hawaii-island

one of the weirdest and most beautiful places i've ever been to.

there are feral horses walking around!

Arriving on big island today huzzah

a-looooooooooooooo-ha!

Super nice weather on Oahu today! So I went on the Hanauma Bay Ridge Hike and snapped this photo.

http://i.imgur.com/ltKDi4Jl.jpg

Hope you'll be getting similar weather on the Big Isle :)

why do people bring their fucking drones to the beach, on vacation WHY

happened twice, immediately cast about for a rock to throw both times

Ppl bring them to make themselves feel like they haven't wasted hundreds of dollars iirc. Yeah that shit is pretty annoying.

I feel like drones should be fair game for ppl with things to throw / slingshots

on the plus side I swam with some sea turtles and saw an (apparently rare?) hawaiian monk seal, so that was cool

Oh! All those creatures are magical. And yes the Monk Seal is fairly rare, population currently is about 1,500, I just heard on the news.

Classic: Monk seals birthing and raising pups on the busiest beaches in Waikiki.

http://www.hawaiimagazine.com/content/rocky-endangered-hawaiian-monk-seal-gives-birth-kaimana-beach-waikiki

Waikiki FAP this week? Or not nbd always next time

Waikiki... FAP?

Kaka'ako FAP > Waikiki FAP imho

any other ilxors got INCOMING BALLISTIC MISSILE THIS IS NOT A DRILL on wireless emergency alert this morning? better than coffee.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/9522437235256770

i think i'm coming around on her

oh that's not how it works? okay well tulsi says there is actually no inbound nuke. good arguments on both sides imo

okay official never-mind notice. this has been cool cuz i definitely needed an experience that made our moment feel both more real and less

wait...so what actually happened?

how much time passed between the 'you're going to die' and 'oops, false alarm' messages?

wtf

40 minutes.

waht

The moment the EAS alert interrupted Hawaiian TV is terrifying pic.twitter.com/pVwpCBeRgD

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 13, 2018

emergency management officially tweeted it was a false alarm 13 mins after the orig alert; that's when i calmed down, to be freaked out a while later by the second one (which still began EMERGENCY ALERT: EXTREME lol)

the 'THIS IS NOT A DRILL' part seemed a little theatrical, would they actually include that if it WASNT A DRILL

Saw Gabbard’s tweet shortly after some initial ones reporting the alert, so mostly I’ve been just looking at responses. Unsurprising that there’s no consensus as to what was the cause even from officials. I’d give money to know if Trump was even alerted at all.

From here in SF it was an interesting psychological moment — I only saw a couple of tweets from one source RT’d into my feed, from a Buzzfeed reporter based there, and I basically assumed if it was a glitch or hack. Checked both the CNN and Honolulu Star-Advertiser pages and feeds: nothing. A few minutes later another RT with an alert was in my feed, but then Gabbard’s tweet was posted. So in the end at most I thought “Huh” rather than assuming it was all going down.

wat if alert on gorila chanmel

Would make sense.

a friend tells me her co-worker had already fled work to "check on [his] ex-girlfriend" when the second message came

high point for me was when my dad entered the room holding up a little radio, just like group captain mandrake. it was playing won't get fooled again

jake shimabukuro from stage tonight: "...so we continued swimming"

jeez

That's some fireworks over there.

I have a friend about ten minutes from the lava line (?) who is OK so far, but yikes

i'm in town and thus plenty safe; guiltily rly enjoyed the 10/10 sunrise this morning. my thoughts to yr friend sleeve!

from a local perspective what's freaking me out isn't the eruption but all these quakes. nothing a californian would change the subject for i'm sure (well unless he had reason to worry pressurized molten rock might burst from underneath his subdivision), but pretty unusual here. you sure don't feel in control, huh.

Nope, always a little disorienting.

i've been wondering myself if plates shifting over there can disturb plates over here

6.9 around an hour ago

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/us/kilauea-volcano-hawaii-earthquakes/index.html

"It has now become unnerving," resident Carol Shepard told KHON.

otm

6.9 around an hour ago

It was felt in Honolulu, ~250 miles away!