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any openings for a sideman

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:27 (seven years ago) link

anyway once a day between now and June 8th i have to feebly say "it's not over yet guys" and smile wanly

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:27 (seven years ago) link

best to try and build some internal utopia in your own imagination if you can't afford the plane tickets. I'd imagine everywhere where there is people will become disappointing eventually.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:33 (seven years ago) link

"abundance of poisonous spiders" is the dealmaker

mark s, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:35 (seven years ago) link

xp Alright Boethius

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link

nah, I'm more Diogenes!

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:39 (seven years ago) link

No jobs in Spain but they've had a fascist government in living memory so they're unlikely to go that way in the near future I guess.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:10 (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_(Spain)

imago, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:40 (seven years ago) link

the only acceptable answer is 'scotland' and you all know it

imago, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:41 (seven years ago) link

Politics and scenery much superior, weather and mass market lager less so

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:42 (seven years ago) link

Scottish politics will be equally miserable post-independence. Don't believe that Scandinavia shit at all.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:43 (seven years ago) link

a few interesting craft breweries in scotland now tbf

imago, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:44 (seven years ago) link

xp politics are better now. After independence, sure, SNP to do a heel turn and become an entrenched permanent tartan tory establishment.

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:46 (seven years ago) link

nb scottish ppl pls don't read that

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:49 (seven years ago) link

No jobs in Spain but they've had a fascist government in living memory so they're unlikely to go that way in the near future I guess.

I'm not sufficiently well-informed about Spain, but "oh, twere better in Salazar's days" is a majority position amongst older Portuguese.

We had that TV event where you choose the greatest person of your nation that was a fad all over the place some time ago, and the fucking senior citizens got Salazar to win it (the leader of the communist resistance against his regime came in second). Bitter lols.

(The German version made Hitler and his chums ineligible from the get-go to prevent potential embarassment)

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:50 (seven years ago) link

I have a quite wealthy electrical contractor in my family who kept threatening to move to Canada for years, it never happened - he bought a farmhouse in Beverley instead. I never asked him if they turned him down for citizenship or the lure of Beverley was too much to resist.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:53 (seven years ago) link

re: bins and Greece, it's always depressing for me to remember that the things the Eurozone crisis countries resent the EU for are things the UK government gleefully does to its own people without any need of coercion

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:55 (seven years ago) link

p good speech by corbs this morning

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:56 (seven years ago) link

corbs

mark s, Thursday, 20 April 2017 09:57 (seven years ago) link

Ireland is superficially attractive, particularly for me, but it's expensive and has a tough job market.

if i could get a job in ireland (and i guess i should form a band of friends and pitch them gov.ie) it does seem p attractive. good quality of life, short enough commutes in dublin relative to london, on a personal level still have family and close friends living there. i just wonder would i hate it after a month and wonder why i bothered.

i would love to live in spain or portugal but my work is a bit tied to english, i'm trying to change that a bit.

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Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:00 (seven years ago) link

i've decided to run with "corbs"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:00 (seven years ago) link

some of the stuff he said this morning feels like it's been unsaid in british politics for the entirety of the tories' latest reign.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:01 (seven years ago) link

Corbyn needs to say something like 'drinking urine is weird and fucked up', just to see Dan Hodges, George Eton et al uploading youtubes of them drinking pints of their own piss. "Mmmmmm!"

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:02 (seven years ago) link

find it a bit sad/sad lol that both labour and the lib dems are proudly announcing that 2,500 people have joined their party since the election was announced. like... doesn't exactly feel like some seismic yes we can numbers.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:03 (seven years ago) link

not least considering about 250k people used digital register to vote on the day of may's announcement

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:04 (seven years ago) link

Q: [From ITV’s Libby Wiener] Your poll ratings suggest people do not believe you. And you attack the elite. But aren’t you just part of an Islington elite.

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Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:05 (seven years ago) link

I'm part of the Islington elite and I can assure you Corbyn is not one of us.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:06 (seven years ago) link

Never once seen him in the Coronet on Holloway Road.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:06 (seven years ago) link

tbf anybody joining the Labour party is taking a punt as to whether they'll be allowed to stay and vote for owt

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:09 (seven years ago) link

The thing is, these cunts in the media all live in London (of course) and so know exactly what Islington is really like, though of course many of them probably avoid it because it's too downmarket and full of immigrants, non-white and working class types.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:10 (seven years ago) link

what even is the islington elite? he has some money but i don't recall journalists grilling osborne or cameron about going to eton.

imagine what kind of rodent would go all-in on the idea that holding liberal views or wanting a society which doesn't torture those in need makes you an elitist.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:11 (seven years ago) link

Good speech.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:12 (seven years ago) link

IT IS NOT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:12 (seven years ago) link

i don't recall journalists grilling osborne or cameron about going to eton.

Politics of envy dontchaknow

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:13 (seven years ago) link

ONE PEOPLE, ONE WILL, ONE DIRECTION

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:13 (seven years ago) link

Good speech.

really good imo. haven't felt anything even akin to enthusiasm for him much but it had some fight to it at least.

xpost NO COALITION OF THE LOSERS

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:13 (seven years ago) link

BRITAIN'S GOT BREXIT

NOW HERE'S ANT AND DEC IN UNION JACK WAISTCOATS GIVING AN IMMIGRANT A GOOD SHOEING

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:14 (seven years ago) link

Feel like Islington elite was no problem for anyone in the days of Blair and Brown, then "North London intellectual" became an antisemitic dogwhistle pejorative in the Miliband era. The only reason it's used against Corbyn is because it's his constituency and it's a good stick to beat him with by the "they don't understand working class communities but btw we still support austerity" kru.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:14 (seven years ago) link

yeah islington is vaguely known as being posh. it's unfortunate corbyn isn't representing an area people don't actually have a shorthand for.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:15 (seven years ago) link

tho it would be hilarious if he was mp for shoreditch and dalston.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:15 (seven years ago) link

it's weird - the angel islington is the second cheapest property on the monopoly board

conrad, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link

Tom Watson is MP for West Bromwich East, just sayin

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link

Right Honorable Member for Hummus & Chardonnay.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:17 (seven years ago) link

the English electorate will never trust a politician who looks like he might have read a book

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:18 (seven years ago) link

corbyn: "i will not rest until a bacon roll costs 12 quid in every cafe in the north"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:20 (seven years ago) link

Corbyn's standard response that half of Islington is in poverty and being squeezed by policies designed to benefit the leafier bits with £2m houses is correct. It's a microcosm of almost everything that is wrong with the country.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:22 (seven years ago) link

btw i saw some Tory politician or other on tv yesterday telling the Scots they should stay in the Union because free trade and free movement are awesome then i hurt myself laughing

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:23 (seven years ago) link

the inequality in london is truly insane. the whole city is morally perverse. like the rents and house prices in given areas combined with the visible and growing numbers of addicted, homeless and mentally ill people.

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Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:25 (seven years ago) link

it's weird - the angel islington is the second cheapest property on the monopoly board

Monopoly can't keep up with gentrification.

Corbyn's standard response that half of Islington is in poverty and being squeezed by policies designed to benefit the leafier bits with £2m houses is correct. It's a microcosm of almost everything that is wrong with the country.

Yup. Talking to some people you'd think Hackney is nothing but hipster cafes as far as the eye can see but if you take a look at the childhood poverty rates...

xpost Ronan totally otm

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:29 (seven years ago) link

I can recall many years ago in The Graun, Francis Wheen wrote a really good in defence of "Champagne Socialists" piece. God, it was probably 20 years ago. But reminding people that posho oddballs like Stafford Cripps or whoever did a lot of good work.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 10:31 (seven years ago) link


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