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oh, I didn't notice 'son' and 'William' in the keywords, so answer is yes, presumably

soref, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

Side note: Hodge's ex-husband and Straw's ex-wife got married and were family friends of mine.

But yes, it started out as code for 'incompetent, didactic hard left control freakery' and morphed into 'cappuccino-sipping middle class' as the area gentrified in the 90s. Corbyn managed to largely avoid being tainted by the negative associations Hodge always had - probably partly because he was never responsible for running the council and partly because he is not a ghastly human being.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

A lot of the heat the area got is probably because so many liberal journalists/editors (Rusbridger, Dowden, etc) lived there too.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

Who all hate Corbyn.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

well tbf the establishment is working out pretty well for them

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

I hope that Mark S, if no one else, will be entertained to hear that I was at that rally on Blackheath which was addressed by Tony Benn.

I was a few years older than the baby.

the pinefox, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link

http://images.archant.co.uk/polopoly_fs/1.4975679.1492091221!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_630/image.jpg

Islington 30 years ago, when it was more famous for Joe Orton than political elites.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7ckBafw.jpg

Alba, Friday, 21 April 2017 05:15 (seven years ago) link

Yes. I have never forgotten the slogan, though I don't think I have the badge.

the pinefox, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:07 (seven years ago) link

OMG Tim Farron. I know in order for the Tories to do badly the Lib Dems have to do well but, call me an old sentimentalist, but I would still love them to be completely annihilated.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 21 April 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

'Let's finish the job' ya cause in 1381 they didn't manage to kill every last foreigner in London

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

(lol joeks, I'm not really 'well actually'-ing the peasants revolt)

why labour 'foot problems' since 2015? (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

What's going on with Farron then?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

(I want to say I think he's being 'Corbyned' in the famous video where he can't give an answer but ...)

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

What's going on is I just saw a clip of him attempting to rouse the Lib Dem troops for the battle ahead, what a state.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

Read a defense of his gay sin thing and the (lib dem) blogger who wrote it started it with 'Let's get something clear first of all, I'm a fucking liberal, people can have whatever religious beliefs they want ...' but then did go on to say he has been strongly involved in LGBT initiatives

Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

defending homophobia, that's a win

no fucker in the world is a bigot because of their religion

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 April 2017 17:46 (seven years ago) link

great coalition opportunities there folks

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 April 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

What have we learnt after a couple of days:

- Corbyn gives good speech
- Corbyn is good with kids
- Corbyn is getting his arse kicked on the 8th June

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 April 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Can we burn the countryside down and send its population out to sea?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 21 April 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link

extend Scottish nationalism to Beachy Head

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 April 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

feel the comparison to paintings by magritte needs work

mark s, Saturday, 22 April 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link

it does tbh

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 April 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link

magritte thatcher

||||||||, Saturday, 22 April 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 50% (+4)
LAB: 25% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 7% (-2)

(via ComRes)

Tories hit 50. who are all these fucking people?!

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 22 April 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

morons and scum

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 April 2017 21:21 (seven years ago) link

Probably people who like brexit? i.e. nv otm

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 22 April 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

Morons and Scum -- I agree. Well said.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

There is a poll this morning suggesting an 18 point swing to the Conservatives in Scotland.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:33 (seven years ago) link

i guess Team Brexit can grasp the concept of tactical voting too

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:50 (seven years ago) link

that said, it's still the combination of hysterical, willfully naive, navel-gazing, smug sub-Canary bollocks littering my Facebook that's most likely to drive me off social media for the duration. Alan Moore thinks you shouldn't vote Tory, fuck me, i bet that's shook 'em

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link

Corbs's Britain's Got Bank Holidays promise is distressingly weak too, surely somebody saw that'll generate more lulz than votes

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:57 (seven years ago) link

I think it's quite good. It feels concrete, easy to communicate. When the pub finally opens (I hate Sundays. Oh, and Old Firm game too, ugh) I bet people are talking about it. It's nothing huge, but I imagine it will be popular, and provides a pretext to talk about working conditions lie holidays and productivity etc.

Will people like it as much as UKIP's 'burkha ban'? I hope so, but my cynical side doubts it.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:15 (seven years ago) link

Wee emo blog entry : feeling shiter about how British politics is headed than anything in this fucked world, chin up to all the decent Britons itt.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:17 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I'd just started getting politically active again, for the first time since the Iraq War, when last year knocked the stuffing out of me again. Very pessimistic.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:19 (seven years ago) link

I am going out campaigning for Labour in an hour!

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:39 (seven years ago) link

Good luck!

Nuttall interviews / editorial making it clear he is taking the inevitable step to reposition UKIP as the political wing of the EDL now that their main reason to exist is moot.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 23 April 2017 09:05 (seven years ago) link

Caught a little bit of Corbyn on the Andrew Marr Show, so relaxed I almost expected him to finish the interview by saying, "If you don't mind, Andrew, I'd like to finish with a little song..."

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 April 2017 10:54 (seven years ago) link

this bizarre national sentiment seems to be a mix of "hooray we've fucked the country" and "well since the country is fucked we prob need the tories in charge"

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 23 April 2017 10:59 (seven years ago) link

"we need to be fucked harder" oh wait

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 11:21 (seven years ago) link

Damien Lewis/Tim Farron nausea-time double on Marr next week. Will be giving that a wide berth.

calzino, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:09 (seven years ago) link

HE WAS GOOD AS HENRY VIII

mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link

This is an interesting twitter thread discussion on the Scottish poll nos.

https://twitter.com/AnndraADunn/status/855930664067244032

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link

Despite my Stalinism coming through earlier the poll numbers are as much a reflection on what a rag the Labour Party has been since Corbyn took over. Not saying he would've won but May would not have called an election if they were unified to such an extent that he would be able to push policies he is advocating if he were ever to win.

Pasok etc.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:38 (seven years ago) link

one of the small grim nuggets of amusement from a Labour thrashing at the polls will be that by sheer weight of numbers there'll be a lot of Blairites losing seats

Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link

Morons and Scum -- I agree. Well said.

― the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am going out campaigning for Labour in an hour!

― the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can you let us know how this turns out. Thanks.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link

lol

briscall stool chart (wins), Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link

one of the small grim nuggets of amusement from a Labour thrashing at the polls will be that by sheer weight of numbers there'll be a lot of Blairites losing seats

― Brexterminate all the brutes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 23 April 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wes Streeting will be sweeping the floor at a McD's 4evah post-June 8th.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link

Most people are out, or are very good at remaining very quiet and not answering the door to canvassers.

Some people who answer say they are too busy to talk.

Some people who talk for a moment say they have not made up their minds.

One person grandiloquently said he had been Labour all his life but would never vote for Corbyn who has destroyed the chance of social justice for the working class in this country.

One person was enthusiastic for our MP.

One person might vote LD.

One person will vote Labour but said 'Corbyn is the problem - as I'm sure you're hearing'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 April 2017 12:55 (seven years ago) link


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