A facebook-friend of mine, basic income, Bernie-fan, posted an article claiming Le Pen was the actual left-wing choice, and Macron a part of global elite conspiracy - of course involving the Rothchilds. I'm really at a loss with some people...
― Frederik B, Sunday, 7 May 2017 10:32 (seven years ago) link
there is actually a p simple explanation for that particular stance..
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 7 May 2017 10:52 (seven years ago) link
Old flatmate of mine, my oldest friend, both studied philosophy, SSP member, we went to mosques together after Iraq war protests etc has added le pen to his list of favourites alongside trump, wilder etc. I blocked him long ago, when he started on about how he 'gay agenda' and radical feminism are supporting Islam for...something.
I don't understand it, nor do I particularly care to at this point, but these folks from a loose 'online right' that push for people like le pen. Hence the hack, presumably.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Sunday, 7 May 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link
A facebook-friend of mine, basic income, Bernie-fan, posted an article claiming Le Pen was the actual left-wing choice, and Macron a part of global elite conspiracy - of course involving the Rothchilds. I'm really at a loss with some people..
Lose that friend, Fred.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 May 2017 13:52 (seven years ago) link
I think losing FB altogether is the best option, gimme ILX over that shit anyday!
― calzino, Sunday, 7 May 2017 13:56 (seven years ago) link
Girlfriend quite worried that participation levels being the same as for the first round is a bad sign - since she fears quite a lot of leftists will stay home.
She's done her best to badger her family - sister isn't voting, father is handing in a protest vote to change the presidential system, brother said he will "decide when I get to the ballot". Apparently she burned her chances after having convinced them all to vote Hollande last time. I don't understand how leftists can be this blasé at such a moment, it's disgraceful.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 7 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
I don't understand how leftists can be this blasé at such a moment, it's disgraceful.
exhibit a
Or he doesn't want to act like a servant of neo-lib interests. If he supports Macron the far-right can say he is an establishment guy in 2022.Melenchon supporters can make their minds up.
Melenchon supporters can make their minds up.
How is his programme not a continuation of things, kicking-down-the-can stuff that just leaks votes to the far-right. This is not a game. Endorsement stuff reeks of that.
Be happy for the crumbs you have France! Stop flirting with racists and don't demand too much.
etc
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
Q: If Le Pen were to pull out a win, what will the makeup of the legislature look like and could they stop a Frexit from taking place if opposed?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
Record abstention levels since 1969.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
Really bad feeling about this.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link
same.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link
Early exit poll suggesting Macron well ahead fwiw.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:48 (seven years ago) link
yeah i mean, i'm loathe to count chickens, but the polls were way way in favour of macron, it's not exactly like brexit/trump.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 7 May 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link
'Official projection', Macron 30% ahead.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link
it's just been called for macron, i think
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link
Emmanuel Macron est élu président de la République avec 65,1 % des voix (estimation Ipsos) #Presidentelle2017 https://t.co/WAwLd2yrZ5 pic.twitter.com/pZ0Vkj4iTD— Le Monde (@lemondefr) May 7, 2017
comforting
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
35%
35 fuckin percent
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
^^^this is the state vote estimate not that actual vote count, which will not come in for some time)
(to date the estimate has generally been within 1% of the outcome, so fingers x-d)
― mark s, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
Le LOL.
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link
It looks like Le Pen is only scoring marginally higher than the abstention count.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
Wait, the maths wouldn't add up? I have no idea how abstentions/vote blanc count in France, but if I understand correctly she did 35% of the 75% of the people who voted, right?
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link
It seems the FN won't exist anymore, that Le Pen will build a new party.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
When Le Pen's dad ran in the second round against Chiraq, Chirac won by 80%. And Chirac is strongly to the right of Macron. So this 65/34 result is not very reassuring from a French perspective.
That being said: WHEW.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link
he started his party about a year ago. i think it is a pretty good result.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 7 May 2017 18:26 (seven years ago) link
now let's ship Macron and Trudeau. Madeau sounds better than Trucron.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link
this is beautiful:
you ok hun? @wollygogg pic.twitter.com/iolH2ZZA1P— ryan (@ryxnf) May 7, 2017
― soref, Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link
Good, expected result for Macron. I think 65/35 is a decent margin. Lots of work to be done so Le Pen won't win it in five years though.
― On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link
xp We can embed tweets now?
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 7 May 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
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LOL I've been clear you vote for Macron and opose what -- at least from what I have seen -- will be his programme. Melenchon supporters clearly made their choice.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link
finding any degree of nuance or caveat applied to jubilation over this unbearable to listen tosuch a relief
― schlump, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link
25 point margin!
― Treeship, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
30 even! I'm bad at math.
Congratulations to the people of France for seeing the bigger picture.
― Treeship, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link
Even though macron seems like a dork
I'm happy we beat the fascist so that I can get citizenship and vote against her in five years.
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:48 (seven years ago) link
pas-de-calais 1st departement so far to show a silm (<5%) majority for le pen, rest of the map is a pleasing brick red at the moment
― mark s, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:51 (seven years ago) link
this is good https://medium.com/@thegrugq/a-list-minute-influence-op-by-data-ddos-3698906d8836
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 7 May 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
w/paris, rhone and bouche de rhones left to declare, only pas de calais and aisnes so far gone to mlp
― mark s, Sunday, 7 May 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
pdc should secede and join the uk, sort out that pesky immigrants running through the tunnel issue once and for all
― imago, Sunday, 7 May 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link
Today was a good day.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 7 May 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link
yay the lousy candidate beat the unspeakable one
vive le macaron
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 May 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link
Deja vu, eh Morbz?
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 8 May 2017 08:43 (seven years ago) link
Le Pen only carrying pas de calais, aisnes and les pays du kek
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 8 May 2017 08:49 (seven years ago) link
Aside the big neo-fascist flop after so much hype, I do draw some comfort that this is also a bad result for TM ... and Morrissey.
― calzino, Monday, 8 May 2017 08:57 (seven years ago) link
I can't believe most of Melechon's voters ended up voting against the fascist, it's almost as if the horseshoe theory is complete bullshit.
― Matt DC, Monday, 8 May 2017 09:11 (seven years ago) link
^
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 8 May 2017 09:12 (seven years ago) link
Marginally more votes went from Fillon to MLP than Melenchon to MLP. Endorsements didn't matter, its as if people can make their minds up.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 May 2017 09:23 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Sf36FW0AEuXKV.jpg:large
interesting piece by olivier roy on likelihood of muslim melenchon voters abstaining in final vote (france doesn't collect voting data by ethnic or religious group, so it's hard to pin this down: roy is generally very good value though)
― mark s, Monday, 8 May 2017 09:51 (seven years ago) link
try again:
here is the piece by roy: http://www.boundary2.org/2017/05/olivier-roy-french-elections-catholics-vote-catholic-muslims-vote-secular/
and here is the diagram: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Sf36FW0AEuXKV.jpg:large
― mark s, Monday, 8 May 2017 09:52 (seven years ago) link
I'm the guy voting Macron in the first ballot and Le Pen in the second
― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 8 May 2017 10:13 (seven years ago) link