thread for ppl who aren't watching Twin Peaks Season 3

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that shirt is the wild palms to my twin peaks

we'll have forgotten this thread when whiney's making money off the book of dogs dressed like twin peaks characters

It would be cool if that was one shirt.

When I first saw this thread, I thought it would be like this one:

List of people who have recently purchased 'Capital' by Thomas Piketty

keep your wild palms off my twin peaks, buddy

something about max headroom

Is Donnie Wahlberg watching Twin Peaks Season 3?

do you think david lynch incorporated any reference to the fact there's a hooters-knockoff restaurant called "twin peaks" in this new series

man I saw a bit of wild palms, pee-ew

http://www.twinpeaksrestaurant.com/wp-content/uploads/Military-263x300.jpg

Chris Cornell: not watching Twin Peaks Season 3

peasky weaksy

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Peak Ilx for this thread to be longer than the Twin Peaks thread. Esp this coming from the threat starter, notable and esteemed hipster puppy auteur Weingarten. Hot garbage flies 'round for all of us.

We can do it

Is there anyone else besides me, Morbs and Sara who are like "Yeah, I can wait, thanks"

longer than the Twin Peaks thread

non-spoiler TP thread has twice as many answers as this one. Not everyone watched 4 hrs of TV last night (which is what the s3 spoiler thread is for)

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Whiney if it makes you feel any better, based on these first episodes, no one is going to be writing about the new episodes by late June

(I mean this as a compliment to the show)

Shakey, yeah soz, the non-spoiler and spoiler thread feel like the white and black lodges to me now. Dunnae know where to turn tbh.

do you think Chief Keef is watching Season 3 of Twin Peaks?

towards the light iirc

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^^ Music journalists of ILX, plz get on this.

what percentage of the people watching Season 3 of Twin Peaks are "wite ppl"?

light seems fine

https://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

50% tumblr wites, 50% world of young people

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Listening to Chief Keef rn.

yah of course tp fandom is fucking corny. mash up culture is fucking dumb duh wow hot take. tp burlesque nights have been happening even before facebook and that shit has always been cringy. but tp is like the best shit ever and this new season is the fucking shit. tp is like the cramps. they are the best band of all time but like 50 million dumb rockabillies are into them big schmeal.

Lux Interior: not watching Twin Peaks Season 3 - I have his autograph somewhere though, R.I.P.

I liked a thing until somebody else liked it wrong
I am pure
I am the one
Alone am I

-Old Lunch, age 14

I'm not watching either, WGW.

And for what it's worth, my argument re: Lynch's auterism (or his failure as such) isn't based on a tightly defined gate to auteurism, but on what I see a tendency to the platitudinous in Lynch himself. His themes, characters, dramatic structure, motifs are to my mind pretty standard, save for their art-school gloss. For a variety of reasons, he seems been allowed more creative control over his work than many of his contemporaries, and that gives him a little more rope than some of his '90s TV-creating peers. In other words, he got to leave in the fun shit that often made it to the cutting room floor on other shows. But the flourishes and fancies that he put into Twin Peaks, plus the VHS cult that rose around it, have lead to a critical overvaluation outsripping the show's actual merits. Which, just to be clear, are ample. But TP's fandom has focused on mythologizing far beyond the confines of the show itself (enabled/extended by Frost/Jen Lynch), in a manner that reminds me of, say, Doctor Who ––but with a veneer of intellectual superiority and insidery ' down the rabbit hole' stuff.

I guess I don't see DL's vision as so singularly his, nor necessarily unique, as much as a through-the-darkened-glass failed American soap opera. Which isn't a bad thing! But it's hardly original. Again - and I actually like Lynch – I just don't think TP is worth the crown of 'visionary.' What I mean to write is that I just don't think he's especially strange or special, no more than a lot of directors, especially when you consider with progenitors like Altman, Waters, Rafelson, Jewison, Hellman, Pollack, Forman. Οὖτις, I agree with you absolutely on the other thread that DL is a 'really this cult-y, insular dude that is still uniquely and thoroughly American,' but it doesn't mean I think he's earned special status.

edit: I just don't think David Lynch, judged on the merits of TP is worthy the crown of 'visionary'

it's weird that you restrict his rep solely to TP, which is not accurate

http://i.imgur.com/wc1W6pq.jpg

like if that was the only thing he had done yeah I don't think he would *quite* be singled out as much, but the rest of his work amplifies and informs the significance of his contributions to TP imo

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idk if anyone rates Twin Peaks as singularly Lynch's? most people seem to see it as a Lynch/Frost/Badalamenti joint and a bunch feel like the prequel movie wasn't true to the tone of the show

now, the *show's* rep as visionary has more to do with its impact on subsequent television (its prescience, if you will) than on it being a work of unparalleled genius. Cuz any TP fan will tell you - as evidenced by the various threads around here - that it is by any measure a flawed work.

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Οὖτις, i can rope in as much lynch as you want. but i was trying to talk about twin peaks in twin peaks thread.

it seems pretty mental to me to say that Lynch isn't an auteur (which has nothing to do with him being a visionary or whatever)

if you watch Badalamenti's anecdote about composing Laura Palmer's Theme (and I don't mean to denigrate his or Frost's contribution to the show) it's a fairly compelling argument for Twin Peaks as a channelling of Lynch's particular obsessions through his collaborators

what kind of bubblehead... nevermind

Why is that mental? Wait, here goes: Lynch isn't an auteur any more than Judd Apatow and Kevin Feige are.

lol come on Apatow doesn't even have a recognizable visual style

Damn, Apatowed. I guess we know what Remy's third login is.

Apatowned

when it comes down to it, being tagged as an auteur is a compliment given to people indicating that they have a distinct authorial voice, and that collaborators are guided by that voice (sometimes literally, with the lynch/badalamenti conversations). the implication is that the finished work belongs to the auteur, that their vision had primacy in the finished product

imo it's only really useful as a marker for consumers of media, so you can say "oh yeah this is a <x> production" and you know what you'll get. it almost always glosses over the other key collaborators that made or broke the standout productions -- wes anderson is consistent but variation in writing partners is definitely evident!

and yeah, you could make a case for the apatows or whatever. or george lucas.

If we're going by visual flair... then sure, Lynch is an auteur. Aesthetically, he's got a great thing going. His sound design is top notch, and his mis en scene is great. But, so?

he is and he isnt
can we stop now

I mean you could debate all day about who the ~true auteurs~ are and who is worthy of inclusion

imo there are a lot more auteurs in the fringe or low budget space. lloyd kaufman, john carpenter, roger corman, john waters, all the women I should know but don't because film is sexist and my own knowledge is shallow. every foreign director who's tagged in auteur in the US because we don't know the key collaborators because the names fell off on import

he is if you need him to be and he isnt if you need him not to be