what kind of bubblehead... nevermind
― brimstead, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link
Why is that mental? Wait, here goes: Lynch isn't an auteur any more than Judd Apatow and Kevin Feige are.
― remy bean, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link
lol come on Apatow doesn't even have a recognizable visual style
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link
Damn, Apatowed. I guess we know what Remy's third login is.
― sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link
Apatowned
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
when it comes down to it, being tagged as an auteur is a compliment given to people indicating that they have a distinct authorial voice, and that collaborators are guided by that voice (sometimes literally, with the lynch/badalamenti conversations). the implication is that the finished work belongs to the auteur, that their vision had primacy in the finished product
imo it's only really useful as a marker for consumers of media, so you can say "oh yeah this is a <x> production" and you know what you'll get. it almost always glosses over the other key collaborators that made or broke the standout productions -- wes anderson is consistent but variation in writing partners is definitely evident!
and yeah, you could make a case for the apatows or whatever. or george lucas.
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link
If we're going by visual flair... then sure, Lynch is an auteur. Aesthetically, he's got a great thing going. His sound design is top notch, and his mis en scene is great. But, so?
― remy bean, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link
he is and he isntcan we stop now
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link
I mean you could debate all day about who the ~true auteurs~ are and who is worthy of inclusion
imo there are a lot more auteurs in the fringe or low budget space. lloyd kaufman, john carpenter, roger corman, john waters, all the women I should know but don't because film is sexist and my own knowledge is shallow. every foreign director who's tagged in auteur in the US because we don't know the key collaborators because the names fell off on import
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:10 (seven years ago) link
he is if you need him to be and he isnt if you need him not to be
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link
other ppl arent actually watching this show at all, and if they are they are definitely doing so in just the right flavour that pleases you the most darling now shhhhhhh go to sleep
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:12 (seven years ago) link
I want to diminish him and I think auteurism is good so he is not
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
Let's keep going to see just how much ground Remy can concede while staying properly riled.
― sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
this shit is the hipster version of being a furry at this point
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten)
i'm not watching this show but i am a furry. am i still welcome on this thread?
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link
darragh you have no horse in this race. we're at the greyhound track
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
where does lynch fit on the auteurism spectrum
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
the hipster version of being a furry i mean good christ the hipster version of being a furry
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link
if lynch is in auteur then so is THIS PUDDLE *jumps in puddle until bedtime*
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
like i should probably be watching this show as the last time it was on people kept asking me about it for two years straight even though i was fourteen at the time but i'm like five episodes behind in watching the one television show i do watch.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link
imo the only way to tell if someone is a film auteur is if nerdo theaters will have a "the films of this guy" series
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link
roger corman, auteur
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
shut up everyone you're all annoying
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
i mean thank god people are talking about this weird trippy lsd shit instead of master of none or stupid mad men.
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link
yes this is probably the most boring and cliche and pointless film nerd debate ever
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link
dude, did you just go on a thread for people who aren't watching twin peaks and upbraid us for not watching twin peaks? that's some strong coffee, sir.
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link
I think Remy is trying to teach people to unlearn all of their associations with the word Lynchian--very TM.
― sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
haha something is in the percolator xp
― mh, Monday, 22 May 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
I just don't think Oson Welles, judged on the merits of his Paul Masson commercials, is worthy the crown of 'visionary'. Sorry, that's just how I feel.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link
Or his brother Orson, for that matter.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch)
that's only because he didn't live long enough to make a playstation 2 commercial
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Monday, 22 May 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
really psyched to not watch this, actually got a head start re-not-watching the second season this week
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
going too actually watch it now, removing bookmark
― mh, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:21 (seven years ago) link
can we talk about other shows we aren't watching right now?
i'm not watching The Americans but i kind of want to, especially since now more than ever a show that focuses on the tricky, twisted relationship of a pair of Soviet agents--as well as their own tricky, twisted relationship with the United States--seems cunningly prescient.
― nomar, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link
i'm not watching The Walking Dead, a show whose shift in focus away from the undead monsters and whose shift towards the all-too-terrifying human monsters who rise up in the wake of society's unrest and upheaval is spookily relevant in these unpredictable times.
― nomar, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link
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oh jfc
― qualx, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link
Not watching all those messages, don't care what u say.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link
― mh, Monday, May 22, 2017 7:18 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
something in which Lynch excel, to be fair.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link
I'm cackling
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/twin-peaks-2017-season-3-premiere-ratings-episode-1-and-2-live-streaming-on-demand-showtime-a7752716.html
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link
You win, Whiney! You win. God bless.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link
it was all because you didn't watch it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:28 (seven years ago) link
*tears bookhouse boys patch off shirt, throws log out window*
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link
sin e an rud nua anois ha? "ratings", ha? pfft
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
Ppl pretend otherwise but the original twin peaks did badly in the ratings after the pilot
Inland empire box office not so hot either iirc
Mark frost always blames twin peaks ratings failure on the gulf war, im assuming this will be trump's fault
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:48 (seven years ago) link
Sorry off topic, meant to sayhttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2YxN2NiN2ItODA0My00YmVmLTkxZWEtZmQyOTUzODNjY2ViXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUxNjc5NjY@._V1_UY268_CR4,0,182,268_AL_.jpg
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:49 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure Lynch is in a blind panic over these numbers, worrying that this project over which he had complete creative control and which is going to be released in its entirety even if no one is watching and which is very likely the last filmed project he'll ever undertake might sour his chances of directing The Fateful Fastening of the Furious. I'm positively smirking.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link
i dunno, this might be a stretch, but wanting a project to fail (a continuation of one you admit to liking yourself) to spite a sliver of other people who like it in ~not a cool way~ is maybe fucking pathetic and sad
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link
However, it's not too much a cause for concern, and perhaps far more an indication of how viewers choose to consume this kind of work.
Perhaps because it's near impossible to really spoil anything produced by David Lynch, it looks as if the weight of viewership fell on Showtime's on-demand services, with Deadline also reporting the network saw the single biggest day and weekend of signups ever for its streaming service, Showtime Anytime and Showtime On Demand.
"In the world that we live in now, offering original programming that attracts new subscribers is our primary business objective," said David Nevins, President and CEO, Showtime Networks in a statement. "By that standard, the Twin Peaks premiere is the biggest single-night driver we’ve ever had."
― nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link
would watch a lynch movie called the single-night driver
― spud called maris (darraghmac), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
i came for the Twin Peaks, i stayed for the exquisite selection of softcore
― circa1916, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
Ha yeah knowing what little I do about showtime's rep in the states I'm kinda surprised ppl are signing up in record numbers rather than just waiting to torrent
― in a soylent whey (wins), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:11 (seven years ago) link