Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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they aren't being let go, they are sucking all the air out of Trump's presidency and hobbling congressional legislative agenda. In that sense it doesn't matter if the public at large "doesn't give a shit" (although I think they do, for the most part), what matters is that it is crippling him politically. Why do you think he's making such a big deal of this Paris Accord withdrawal? It's one of the few things left that he can do without Congress (I'm gonna let you guess what the others are - they aren't pretty either)

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link

here comes a litany of misleading lies from trump. this is revolting.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:43 (seven years ago) link

trump just criticized the paris accord for not promoting "clean coal" enough, which is one dumb thing, but also...doesn't his own budget cut funding for "clean coal"?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumps-budget-hits-renewables-hard-but-clean-coal-also-starves/article/2623937

his lies aren't even consistent

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

why start now

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if they cancelled that Iowa rally because this was going to take its place

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

I'm gonna let you guess what the others are - they aren't pretty either

Favor us.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

^^^ bring it on

sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

what matters is that it is crippling him politically

In what sense? Because from Trump through Sessions to Pruitt to whomever, they are still doing shitty horrible things, whether it has to go through congress or not. The only argument that can be made is that it could be even worse.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

does everyone else think I should stop posting too?

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

Actually feel sick at the amount of stupidity in this speech. It's moronic!

stet, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

In what sense? Because from Trump through Sessions to Pruitt to whomever, they are still doing shitty horrible things, whether it has to go through congress or not. The only argument that can be made is that it could be even worse.

that's the only argument to make! why is this not important??

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

Because the prospect of worse does not make terrible better!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:51 (seven years ago) link

...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Josh, your basis for argument seems to be that if it's not good enough to get this administration thrown out now, it's not worth bothering with.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Favor us.

things a President can do without Congress = foreign policy, ie rip up treaties, fuck up alliances, start wars, etc. you know, the good stuff!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Jfc heard 30 seconds of this shit on NPR and feeling homicidal.

JoeStork, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

the whitehouse feed keeps cutting to this shot of 3-rows of trump supporters, carefully cropped so that no one else is in the same frame. it's so obviously fake and manufactured

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

I don't watch him talk, I'm not a glutton for punishment

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

also are you really hoping for something unexpected to happen? I mean

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

I'm hoping someone brings me a gin and tonic.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

otm

sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

I'm hoping for a protester to yell "FUCK YOOOOOoooooo"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

this speech is actually shaping up to be one of his most explicit and prominent expressions of xenophobism, "anti-globalism", bannonism

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

I'm hoping for more than that. (xp)

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

He's basically declared trade war on Europe and China.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link

And the USA will lose that.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

Watergate took a year and a half to get going

Hmmm, more like 10 months really. And the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

Paul Ryans statement is basically 'fuck obama lol'

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

Pruitt's talking now.

what a fucking prick

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

his nose so deep up trump's asshole, the buttcheeks making little hollow cupping noises as they clap over pruitt's ears

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:02 (seven years ago) link

He's basically declared trade war on Europe and China.

The US will get coal mines, we'll get renewables. The guy is a deal-making genius

stet, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

thank you for a note of black humor, appreciated

sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

does everyone else think I should stop posting too?

― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:50 PM (eleven minutes ago)

wholeheartedly

a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

he took no questions

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

yea i'm not going to watch this

marcos, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

Looks like the UK picked the wrong time to hitch its wagon to the Poor Old USA.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

the mean attention span is about a tenth of what it was then

it is probably easy to believe that one can accurately estimate an entire population's average attention span when one only pays attention to three things

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

bold prediction
scott pruitt will become a U.S. senator and he will be even more hatable than ted cruz

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

savin' that for ilx first mentions but it seems so likely

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

guys the FP button under Violet Jynx's posts is in the same place as everybody else's posts

please stop confusing being mildly annoying with being hateful, etc.

I can't believe I'm posting this

El Tomboto, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

lol @ Musk throwing a temper tantrum and leaving his "economic councils" as if that counts for shit

I'm glad he's bankrolling Solarcity and Tesla and battery storage projects and space exploration but god he is such a tool

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

xp I tried that already, it didn't work

sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

one can accurately estimate an entire population's average attention span when one only pays attention to mobile-electronics-obsessed zombies

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Don't misrepresent me — I've never said or thought VJ was hateful. I just wish he'd vanish.

a warm bowl of soap (WilliamC), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

^^^

sleeve, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Josh, your basis for argument seems to be that if it's not good enough to get this administration thrown out now, it's not worth bothering with.

I don't know, the GOP congress under Obama was capable enough to hold/fuck things up just for the hell of it, and Trump can with a single fart undo or at least fuck up any sign of progress ... if it's that easy to do a bad job, or just destroy for destruction's sake, then maybe none of it is worth bothering with. Like, to what end? As long as there are people stupid enough to nihilistically turn the clock back, what is the point if it's relatively easy for them to do so? Because even if the congress and White House went blue, they can't just undo the shit Trump is undoing. What's taking him months to destroy was often the product of years of effort. And even if all the investigations take him down, his replacements are just as bad for all the same reasons. And if all of these investigations don't take him down, then ... seriously, why bother? We're doomed.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Trump getting elected period remains just so innately disheartening.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:15 (seven years ago) link

i'm just gonna cast aside any degree of investment in my health and any specific plans for the future. maybe i'll start smoking cigarettes or something. why not?

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:19 (seven years ago) link

Because even if the congress and White House went blue, they can't just undo the shit Trump is undoing

be specific, because in many cases they can actually undo the shit he is doing

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

and let's be really clear here - repealing the ACA, pushing through an insane tax cut, building a wall on the Mexican border, etc. - these are all things with horrible, horrible consequences and it is a good thing that they are being stopped.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link


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