ossoff's opponent for the GA seat made a bit of a gaffe during the debate tonight, apparently
"Someone working full time should earn a decent standard of living." - Jon Ossoff pic.twitter.com/hf1yO7YfLX— Team Ossoff (@TeamOssoff) June 7, 2017
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link
During Tuesday night’s debate for an open U.S. House seat in Georgia, Republican candidate Karen Handel said that she does not support a “livable wage.”“This is an example of the fundamental difference between a liberal and a conservative: I do not support a livable wage,” she said on Atlanta’s WSB-TV in response to a viewer question about raising the minimum wage. “What I support is making sure that we have an economy that is robust with low taxes and less regulation.”
“This is an example of the fundamental difference between a liberal and a conservative: I do not support a livable wage,” she said on Atlanta’s WSB-TV in response to a viewer question about raising the minimum wage. “What I support is making sure that we have an economy that is robust with low taxes and less regulation.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/karen-handel-i-dont-support-livable-wage
“This is an example of the fundamental difference between a liberal and a conservative: I do not support a livable wage,”
gotta admit this is refreshing honesty from a republican though
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:36 (seven years ago) link
"I do not support living."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:37 (seven years ago) link
'How much money do you have, ma'am?... Okay, I sincerely don't care whether you live of die. Next?'
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:41 (seven years ago) link
I do not support a livable wage
WOW. I am ... wow.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:41 (seven years ago) link
I mean does she realise that without a livable wage people dont spend money and buy houses and the economy grinds to a halt, right? Not to mention the increase in crime it causes which pearlclutchers like her would hate.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:42 (seven years ago) link
It's a true reflection of her party's thoughts on the matter.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:42 (seven years ago) link
if you surprised trump with the question, as a non sequitur, "do you support a living wage like the typical democrat, or do you oppose it like republican house candidate karen handel?", i wonder what he'd say
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:43 (seven years ago) link
xpost yeah she just accidentally blurted out something honest, i love when that happens
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 04:44 (seven years ago) link
Shit man, put it up as an instapoll or something on Breibart/Fox News/etc. and learn how quickly how party labels outweigh everything else.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 05:34 (seven years ago) link
I've been reading the Hari Seldon-esque Peter Turchin of late. From his Ultrasociety:
There is a pattern that we see recurring throughout history, when a successful empire expands its borders so far that it becomes the biggest kid on the block. When survival is no longer at stake, selfish elites and other special interest groups capture the political agenda. The spirit that "we are all in the same boat" disappears and is replaced by a "winner take all" mentality. As the elites enrich themselves, the rest of the population is increasingly impoverished. Rampant inequality of wealth further corrodes cooperation. Beyond a certain point a formerly great empire becomes so dysfunctional that smaller, more cohesive neighbors begin tearing it apart. Eventually the capacity for cooperation declines to such a low level that barbarians can strike at the very heart of the empire without encountering significant resistance. But barbarians at the gate are not the real cause of imperial collapse. They are a consequence of the failure to sustain social cooperation. As the British historian Arnold Toynbee said, great civilizations are not murdered - they die by suicide.
This accords with my reading in history, more or less. In the U.S., we haven't seen political arguments to reduce income inequality to preserve social and civilizational stability since the 1930s. I think its a worthy justification.
― it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 05:55 (seven years ago) link
"I support a gruel diet, unless they want some more"
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 06:15 (seven years ago) link
lol
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 07:08 (seven years ago) link
More fun:
HOT TAKE: So what happened today with the Senate on Trumpcare leads me to believe it could go exactly like the House-- secretive & fast.— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) June 6, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:24 (seven years ago) link
Ossoff is still gonna lose
― sexualing healing (crüt), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:56 (seven years ago) link
ppl in north Fulton don't care about the poor they want low taxes & less regulation so Handel was right on message
― sexualing healing (crüt), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:00 (seven years ago) link
On this lovely Wednesday morning is it OK if I mention again that Trump wanted to build a giant, beautiful solar power generating border wall? Oh, and this is today:
Senator Richard Burr (R-NC), Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Senator Mark Warner (D-VA), Vice Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, today announced that the Committee will hold an open hearing on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) on Wednesday, June 7, 2017, at 10:00 a.m. Appearing before the Committee will be Director of National Intelligence, Daniel Coats; Acting Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Andrew McCabe; National Security Agency Director, Admiral Mike Rogers; and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:24 (seven years ago) link
Meanwhile, ISIS attacked sites in Iran. What are you going to say about that, Trump? How do you like a little cognitive dissonance your way, dickhead?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:30 (seven years ago) link
I really doubt he can keep all those I's straight.
So Christie's lieutenant and the Goldman Dem won the NJ guv noms bcz those voters generally care only about property taxes.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link
Meanwhile, ISIS attacked sites in Iran. What are you going to say about that, Trump?
fake news, obv
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:02 (seven years ago) link
come on down, Chris Wray!
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-donald-trump-names-fbi-director-pick-1496836465-htmlstory.html
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link
He represented New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie during the investigation into the George Washington Bridge lane-closing case.
lol, manages optics
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:13 (seven years ago) link
Don't unpack your bags too fast, dude.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:14 (seven years ago) link
i'll give him 10 weeks before he's out the revolving door again
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:14 (seven years ago) link
Any word from the unsuspecting Mr. Wray yet?
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link
Reached at home for comment by the New York Times, Mr. Wray stammered 'Wh-wh-what?'. Retching sounds were briefly heard before the phone was apparently dropped. Mr. Wray did not rejoin the conversation.
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:21 (seven years ago) link
lot going on in this one
Getting ready to leave for Cincinnati, in the GREAT STATE of OHIO, to meet with ObamaCare victims and talk Healthcare & also Infrastructure!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 7, 2017
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:23 (seven years ago) link
GREAT STATE v "great state" which one seems more sarcastic
― Treeship, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:24 (seven years ago) link
ALL CAPS v Unnecessary Capitalisation which one makes you seem like more of a moron
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:26 (seven years ago) link
Nah, Dude is just on ſome Eighteenth Century Kick
― Treeship, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:28 (seven years ago) link
ObamaCare has ravaged our communities, hindering millions from the premature deaths they so deeply desire. I salute our president for taking on this scourge, and wish him godspeed in the fulfillment of his own similar desire.
― Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:31 (seven years ago) link
seems like a doctor
xp
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:31 (seven years ago) link
unlike the feckless obama, whose efforts to save lives at home were philosophically at odds with his desire to take lives abroad, president trump is committed to equality - souls both domestic and international will be offered to the old ones in numbers as large as congress will allow
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:37 (seven years ago) link
chait, buzzkilling
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/republicans-wont-impeach-trump-no-matter-what-his-crimes.html
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
anything to read into the fact that the new FBI director's first initial and last name combined are "cray"?
― evol j, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
Would it be better if he was impeached (probably resign first)and we get Pencified or just continue to stall and destroy the Republican death machine from accomplishing anything for the next two years
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:57 (seven years ago) link
Thats the eternal question
― Treeship, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:04 (seven years ago) link
― reggie (qualmsley),
he's mostly correct
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link
(i realize the unlikeliness of this yes but trump was never going to win in the first place remember) best case scenario is trump corruption gets dug up shocking enough to wake enough of Fox Nation from their ideological stupor / filter bubbles of epistemic closure and face reality; if that means lame duck president pence, cool
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link
there is no trump corruption which will wake fox nation from their ideological stupor - not trump secretly being a member of isis, not trump humping his daughter on the original constitution, not masterminding the dynamiting of the cancer wing of a childrens' hospital packed to the brim with doe-eyed sick kids
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:10 (seven years ago) link
The only way Fox News fans are going to escape their bubble is death. Which should be arriving shortly for the vast majority of them.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:15 (seven years ago) link
on the plus side, House Republicans can be yoked to Trump by the Dems who campaign against them in 2018. I understand the political calculus of not wanting to separate yourself from the President but I think the smarter reps know they're all going down together.
― evol j, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link
and by "all" i don't mean of course that they're all going to lose, in fact there's a good chance the GOP retains the House, but it's a much more politically feasible path for Dems than impeachment.
― evol j, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:18 (seven years ago) link
Trump could get a yen for picking fights withcongress and in this way turn his voters against their local gop reps. This is the dream.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:21 (seven years ago) link
if ever there was a reason to hope for the repeal of obamacare...
― alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:25 (seven years ago) link
They're all on Medicare. Of the "keep the government out of my" variety
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure many are having their coffins fitted with screens that will blare Hannity at their wormy skulls for all eternity
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:28 (seven years ago) link
Their grandkids are going to auction the coffins, have their bodies cremated and scattered out of the car window while driving north to escape the searing droughts and rising floodwaters. God forbid we raise the estate tax.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link
I get the feeling a lot of old red state tax-me-not's are not clamoring with "take away my free health care ! take away medicare!!"
Unfairness seems to only work when its about ME
So Trump can destroy everyone else's health care but not MY "free" health care
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:43 (seven years ago) link