2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

you forgot 3:00 am - answer Batphone

Charles Murray, author of The Bell Curve, reacts:

I read the various posts here on "The Corner," mostly pretty ho-hum or critical about Obama's speech. Then I figured I'd better read the text (I tried to find a video of it, but couldn't). I've just finished. Has any other major American politician ever made a speech on race that comes even close to this one? As far as I'm concerned, it is just plain flat out brilliant—rhetorically, but also in capturing a lot of nuance about race in America. It is so far above the standard we're used to from our pols.... But you know me. Starry-eyed Obama groupie.

the sherriff is a-near, indeed

I just finished watching the video in full (it's up at Youtube). Wow.

link?

Dude probably scribbled that speech out in 20 minutes on the back of an airsick bag on the way to Philadelphia.

just reading that speech was pretty :-O

you think he wrote a considerable portion of this himself? The NYT alluded to it earlier today.

wtf is limbaugh talking about
http://thepage.time.com/limbaughs-reaction-to-obamas-speech-on-race/

he was reported to have been working on the speech through 2am last night

you think he wrote a considerable portion of this himself? The NYT alluded to it earlier today.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:04 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i dont doubt that he wrote much of it
the campaign alluded to him staying up until 3am the night before writing it

Wow, that is the sound of one limbaugh flailing, desperate to find a fingerhold on a smooth surface

I am boggling at the reaction of Bell Curve dude.

YouTube video is down already :-(

Oh wait - go to video.google.com & search "obama race speech" - one of those must be the full speech

Limbaugh can't figure out that Americans DO see each other as members of ethnic groups while not seeing themselves as victims.

Full speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU

you can also locate it at the obama campaign website

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no elmo, I haven't had time to read it yet. And I can't say I'm looking fwd to it based on the pulls.

"that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America"

As someone said, Clintonite tripe.

"a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel,"

"Like" Israel? Just to, y'know, pick one stalwart Middle East ally at random. I may vomit.

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Do we really want a President who is an eloquent speaker?

We've just spent seven years under a President who is an eloquent speaker, and look where it has gotten us.

man stfu morbius you secondhand hack

thanks jf

yeah for real morbius please stfu

maybe you should stick to panning movies you haven't seen, morbs >:P

We've just spent seven years under a President who is an eloquent speaker, and look where it has gotten us.

hahahahahaha

what do you expect him to say Morbs? I'm sure that Obama has a more nuanced view of the situation in the mideast than "ISLAMIC TERRORISTS HATE OUR FREEDOM", but to implicate Israel or American Foreign Policy in any way would just not be a good move at all politically. And Obama is a politician, when it boils down to it. A moral and forthright politician? Yes. But a politician nonetheless, I don't really blame him for that

i support any speech that causes morbius to vomit

Morbs, you know your Gore Vidal – you don't get elected preznit unless you appease the Israeli lobby.

wait I thought Morbz hated Gore Vidal

I am boggling at the reaction of Bell Curve dude.

^ this

elmo, where on the Obama site? I can't find it and youtube is blocked at work.

I'm totally unfamiliar with the Bell Curve dude - Ned/Dan care to explain?

this speech is serious

no Shakey, i am FOR Gore Vidal, to answer Rock Hardy.

I'm well aware that Obama is a pol, thx. Which is why I can't get into any of this. Have fun with yr messiah.

I am boggling at the reaction of Bell Curve dude.

^ this

-- Ned Raggett, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:17 AM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

http://ifoughtthelaw.cementhorizon.com/stop-posting.gif

Morbs please never shut up

<3

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBbJv

michael, it's here ^^

it's a youtube embed, though, so not sure it will work if youtube is blocked. full text accompanies, tho

morbius, read the fucking speech you idiot

goddamn <3 this guy

http://i29.tinypic.com/jhqzie.jpg

I'm so tired of this "messiah" thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_bell_curve

Oh, I read it hours ago, but thanks, elmo!

loooooooooooooooooool brainwasher

Morbs, you know your Gore Vidal – you don't get elected preznit unless you appease the Israeli lobby.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, March 18, 2008 6:14 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

gore vidal is the og truther too -- can't take his shit seriously.

Let's just call Morbius "Dr. Momus" from now on.

eth baby, just stfu till you have more brilliant stories about hanging out w/ washed-up moronic rappers

ah so its not so much the reaction (which seems reasonable to me) as to who's saying it - thx Dan