Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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i mean besides by the russians

j., Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link

That Trump tweet is impressively doge-esque. No idea what the fuck he's even TRYING to say.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

you wouldn't be able to tell if it was

@realDonaldTrump
Who hides my tummy tickler on a Saturday night? The tv screen is getting dim on the edges but I know a liar when I see one. The good voices are louder than the bad ones, you'll see!

*shrugs* that's our president

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 June 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

If I'm allowed a prediction after my poor showing wrt the election, I do think we will have sad occasion to see the first public display of a presidential penis (my money is currently on a disrobed Trump found playing in a fountain like a small child after a brain event of some sort).

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

I don't think he knows what prevalent means.

Fetchboy, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

I guess the tweet may be related to this -- https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/10/us/politics/comey-fake-news-twitter-posobiec.html. They're running with the Comey-is-a-leaker thing, now adding to it the and-lied-under-oath-about-it thing. The idea I guess being that Comey was the real leaker all along, was undermining Trump from the beginning, etc etc.

I don't think he knows what prevalent means.

I think he meant "relevant." But who knows? He was always stupid and now he's senile as well.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link

i think he means "frequent" or "numerous"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

He means covfefe

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 June 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link

don't well all tombot? DON'T WE ALL

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQc4A-XBzBY

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

so weird to hear that song at its actual speed

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

that's stupid. Isn't there a statute of limitations on these things?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link

This is kinda amazing

Trump's private lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, has counseled White House staff and exerted influence over legal strategy https://t.co/0yjxsdBYeR

— The New York Times (@nytimes) June 11, 2017

Legal Twitter is going nuts over this bit:

His visits to the White House have raised questions about the blurry line between public and private interests for a president facing legal issues. Mr. Kasowitz in recent days has advised White House aides to discuss the inquiry into Russia’s interference in last year’s election as little as possible, two people involved said. He told aides gathered in one meeting who had asked whether it was time to hire private lawyers that it was not yet necessary, according to another person with direct knowledge.

Seeing everything from 'grounds for disbarment' to the assumption that this advice is being given so underlings can be more easily thrown under the bus.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, well, okay then

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15674380/obamacare-kentucky-trump-ahca

In southeastern Kentucky, the Obamacare enrollees I interviewed were disappointed — but they also weren’t mad that their Congress member, Hal Rogers, voted to pass it. They talked about all the other good things he had done for the area in his decades of service. They gave him the benefit of the doubt, expecting that he must have cast his vote to improve the economy or solve a budget issue.

This includes Kathy Oller, an Obamacare enrollment worker who supported Trump in the 2016 election. She feels let down by the Republican health care plan — “If they take the expanded Medicaid away, it really, really is gonna kill Kentuckians because they won’t have health insurance,” she says — and she’s already seeing other ways that Trump health policies are hurting Kentucky. Obamacare sign-ups, she said, were slower this year, as people in Kentucky were confused about whether the health care law still existed.

But Oller doesn’t regret her vote for Trump — “I don’t have regrets,” she says plainly — and she trusts that Rogers, whom she has also voted for, knows what he’s doing. She gets most her news from his weekly emails to constituents; she cites his arguments for why the law needs to be repealed.

This sentiment felt ubiquitous in Corbin. Obamacare enrollees I interviewed didn’t like the Republican plan, but they still trusted the Republican Party to do the right thing on health care.

They felt like they had picked a side, and now they were going to stick with it.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link

Michael Martin, a 47-year-old Obamacare enrollee, says he thought of Rep. Rogers’s AHCA vote as “a trade-off for all the other stuff he’s done. He’s brought jobs in. One of the places where I worked was one of the places he brought in.”

Martin likes his Obamacare coverage. He used to have a federal contracting job but is currently unemployed. He pays $77 each month and gets a $341 monthly subsidy from the government. He’s currently in treatment for thyroid cancer, which was diagnosed when he was on the Medicaid expansion about a year ago. He had a bypass surgery a few years ago, when he had insurance at work, and worries about that being categorized as a preexisting condition.

Martin has kept up with the health care debate. When we met in mid-May, he told me he was waiting for the new CBO number that would come out the next week. What he saw online made him think the new bill would be a raw deal for him.

“I saw a chart on the internet that showed the estimates of how much a person with preexisting cancer or cardiac problems would have to pay,” he says. “I fall into those categories. If you add them together, I’m like a double risk. The number was really up there, the premium.”

Martin wouldn’t tell me whom he voted for in the 2016 election; the people I met generally seemed more reticent to talk about which candidate they favored during this trip. But he did say he’d supported Rogers in the past and was currently puzzling over his Congress member’s vote. He wasn’t necessarily mad, more confused. I asked him whether he thought Rogers had the best interests of Kentuckians at heart.

“He’s gotta know, right?” Martin responded. “Well, he’s gotta know, but I can’t see the reasoning why he voted ‘yes,’ you know?”

I keep having to tell myself that some people are actually that earnest.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link

Ned, that story breaks my heart.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:38 (seven years ago) link

Me too. It also infuriates me. The disdain these Republican legislators must have for their constituents is impossible to fathom.

Treeship, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:42 (seven years ago) link

fuck em. it just sucks that other ppl have to suffer when the GOP get is way

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

gets its

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

If you don't have internet, and the only 24 hour talk station is the local sports/right wing radio option, you may have never heard of Ayn Rand or libertarian/trickle-down economics or the Koch Brothers. There's just the Republicans, who the good ole boys support because they don't look down on those flying confederate flags, and those weird Democrats, who are just trying to sneak transvestites into your ladies' bathrooms.

If Tom Steyer (etc.) had spent their political contributions setting up another Air America that targeted these folks, focused on class awareness, with, yes, sports/entertainment programming in the evenings, and country music bumpers, this might not be the situation.

Right now, the Left is 2-3 decades behind, but the very fact that Trump's message, with its class signifiers, was successful suggests to me that there's a hunger for programming and knowledge that acknowledges class in a matter of fact way. Even if your own issues run more to identity politics, one can't win broadly on the Left without using the language of class.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

It's astounding to me that so many people do not grasp why it's so important to the GOP to pass AHCA. The thought process seems to end at "must be some good reason for it" and never lands on massive tax breaks for millionaires.

Moodles, Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link

One reason "Wealthcare" is a better name than "Trumpcare".

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link

why do we do this pic.twitter.com/e4Dtm7uu1n

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 11, 2017

Bio-Digital Jezza (kingfish), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

xp why do we do what

May o God help us (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

Sexualize/belittle/trivialize serious issues.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

Oh is it just the pic posted subsequently? This

We trivialise serious issues because not everyone takes every issue equally seriously and not everyone even takes serious issues equally seriously and even at that some people can agree that an issue is serious while either still reserving a level of distance, relativity, separation or sense of differing respective value from others that allows them to inhabit a place where the agreed serious issue can still be the object of humour or further still the act of trivialisation of what everybody would if called upon to do so by an appropriately serious person agree is a very serious issue may in itself be for some people a coping mechanism with regard to that serious issue

May o God help us (darraghmac), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

If Trump's sleaze bag lawyer told me not to get a lawyer, I would get a lawyer that day.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link

I think we broke darragh

mh, Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link

We trivialise serious issues because not everyone takes every issue equally seriously and not everyone even takes serious issues equally seriously and even at that some people can agree that an issue is serious while either still reserving a level of distance, relativity, separation or sense of differing respective value from others that allows them to inhabit a place where the agreed serious issue can still be the object of humour or further still the act of trivialisation of what everybody would if called upon to do so by an appropriately serious person agree is a very serious issue may in itself be for some people a coping mechanism with regard to that serious issue

― May o God help us (darraghmac), Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:31 PM

but do you like Spandau Ballet?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

He knows this much is Trump

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Donald kemp

May o God help us (darraghmac), Monday, 12 June 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link

Everything Trump loves is ... Gold!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 June 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

Oh, sure, this is a smashing idea Dianne

had no idea she took her talking points from Michael Savage

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 June 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

the Lynch-Clinton summit on the tarmac was the stupidest political decision of Bubba's life, proving he was never a genius at "politics."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 June 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link

He and Obama also predicted doom for Labour last week.

fresh new batch of "democracy is actually bad" takes. pic.twitter.com/PG5RUhIl32

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) June 10, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 June 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

You know who's a genius at politics?

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Monday, 12 June 2017 02:56 (six years ago) link

H. L. Mencken, in a surly mood 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 12 June 2017 04:31 (six years ago) link

love some mencken when i forget he was the cynical man's fun anti semitic bro

mh, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link

I mean, he wasn't wrong, but returning to the idea that man really just wants three hots and a cot, and maybe a roll in the hay, and gives no care to his fellow man isn't revolutionary and wasn't then either

mh, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:36 (six years ago) link

and who can blame them

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 08:49 (six years ago) link

I mean they're going to move almost straight back out so why the bother of moving in in the first place, innit?

Stevolende, Monday, 12 June 2017 08:57 (six years ago) link

Like isn't moving house the third most traumatic experience of your life or something, so at least there's that they've been subjected to.
They're not going to come up with some excuse as to why they should move back in September now are they? Fingers probably overcrossed for them to have to anyway.

Isn't going to a boarding school supposed to be character forming anyway?

Stevolende, Monday, 12 June 2017 09:01 (six years ago) link

they all got that kind of shellshocked "we just had a massive strop" look on their faces

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:03 (six years ago) link


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