By Hera! Come anticipate the WONDER WOMAN movie with me!

so basically you liked Superman IV

Never seen it

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Actually never seen a Superman film from start to finish.

Does he solve all the worlds problems and shout at the audience at the end in the fourth film?

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Does he solve all the worlds problems and shout at the audience at the end in the fourth film?

not far off it, tbh

If you ever saw the Man of Steel and thought "What the franchise really needs is a 90 minute treatise on nuclear disarmament, complete with a character named Nuclear Man", this one's for you

Also lol that dude's name is Mark Pillow

I see an ah-fuck-it cheekiness to a script that calls for Nuclear Man to grow his fingernails long, scratch Superman, and give him the flu.

don't forget about Ducky

looks like I will be seeing this next week...

On the fence between good and good enough. Love the humanity, love WW when she gets to be WW. Weird/funny how so many characters are struck more by her beauty than superpowers.

Why didn't she stop WWII?

I enjoyed this a lot! saw it in 4d lol

Smell-o-vision?

My younger one thought it reminder her of "Moana." Limited frame of reference, granted, but I guess it could be *less* like "Moana." I admit when they first sailed from Wonder Woman land I half expected them to start singing.

You sure it wasn't more like Man of Aran?

lol it's totally like moana. gotta get off this island!

I think she responded to the mix of princess on the isolated island who disobeys her protective parent to fight an ancient evil that is affecting the outside world. That and the demigod stuff. And the animal sidekick, Chris Pine.

And like I said, limited frame of reference. She hasn't seen that many movies in total, and Moana is one she has seen a lot of the last year or so.

I don't know much about the character, to be honest. Is Wonder Woman immortal? How about the other Amazons? I was surprised to see a couple of them shot early in the film.

looved this

the absolute ballsy move to be as corny and loud about LOVE and HUMANKIND in those final scenes. That made the third act, which some people seem to have an issue with, a joy, and I was getting all teary about the relationship with Steve anyway.

I think that stuff is key to the film's success. It's sort of a small story, a nice alternative to the end of the world big beam of light shooting from space stuff that seems to affect every other superhero movie.

god the "love!" shit was the worst, the clear moral of the movie is that war and punching are our real saviours

Punching bad guys, you mean.

I mean, the whole point about love is built into the WW story to start with.

the love shit was the thing i liked the best :/

watched this tonight wanting to love it and was surprised by how bad it was. boring, generically written, woodenly acted. the entire backstory part was superfluous -- did anyone even care when her aunt died?

YES

an island of badass Amazon warriors and her aunt is badass warrior Robin Wright Penn i'll tell you who's goddamn superfluous and it's not her imo

the thing that is missing from this thread is anyone who had even the slightest emotional connection to this character

i mean there's s thousand think pieces out there already but there's a reason ppl are still going out to see this thing and maybe it's boring to all yall itt but it's also sparking some imaginations and making ppl happy and it is now kinda pissing me off that i cannot have anything like THAT conversation here bcz everyone's too cool and also this thread is full of almost all dudes who never gave a shit about WW in the first place

sorry but for a movie that made me so happy it bums me out not to share that here with... anyone really

I'll stan for this flick

fwiw I did a podcast with an OG WW fan and she felt v simikarly

lol *similarly

it's just...

she embodied all the things i wanted as a kid and i got to see her shown on screen as a kind, powerful and LOVING figure who isnt *just* flipping tanks

like ppl went out to this cold hoping for a feminist text and if u dont have much of a WW connection it may not be much of a movie

but what Jenkins allowed WW to *BE* , for ppl who really cared about such things and knew what could go wrong, who were more emotionally invested than they realized, it was like christmas in June

i havent given a shit about or stayed awake for a DC movie in i dont know how long but even the corniest notes of this thing just completely lifted me up because i can't watch it as a discerning grownup. I'm watching it as 7 year old Veg who dressed up as WW for superhero day at school and who thought Linda Carter was A MAZ ING and who needed WW to be all of those things and definitely, considerably more

i brought a lot of baggage to this one. i didnt realize how much but having a version of WW that made me proud to say "I wanted to be her" is huge

I spent about half this movie crying or almost crying. I'm in love with both of the main characters. I also want to be both of them.

Basically I bought both WW and Steve's earnestness and it slew me. They weren't tortured by dark pasts. They weren't caught up in their own individual stories at all, actually - they had feelings that sometimes overcame them, but they were focused on causes outside themselves. And they did it all with grace and humor and beauty.

So, I liked it.

I guess if you weren't torn apart when WW said goodbye to that photo of Steve with the plane, we don't have a lot to talk about. Never felt that in a superhero movie before.

Yes the emotional side of this was what I was trying to get to in my praise. The filmmaking is pretty classical in my opinion, notes sustained just long enough, just timed right, the action, the contemplative scenes in the village at night, by the fireplace, it's very good at moving you along, letting you reflect, there is a clear-eyedness to it, but yes, mostly, it's the earnestness of the two main characters that makes it sing for me, and as I said, the boldness of allowing something that might be a bit corny and naive to take center stage.

I really did like the moment where WW is struggling to accept that humans are just garbage people and not purely tools of Aries because it was an earnest moment.

imo she did the transitions between disbelief to heartbreak to rage just right as the movie progressed and she learned more about the "real" world and the flawed humans in it.

blah, poor phrasing there but you get the idea I hope

yeah I thought it was paced well.

not saying it was a perfect movie (the sexual jokes were cringeworthy), but considering what dumpster fires the other DC franchise films were, I'm kinda surprised at the lukewarm reaction here.

It felt closer to a MU movie than DCU

I believe I used the phrase "surprisingly touching" after we saw it

Here's a positive article about how it succeeded in knowing what to do with Steve Trevor
https://dorisvsutherland.wordpress.com/2017/06/05/wonder-woman-the-best-steve-trevor/

i'm generally not a big fan of the "it works despite its flaws" genre of art criticism and thought this was pretty much maudlin trash but i'm glad it was meaningful to other people

This movie ruled.

fwiw I did a podcast with an OG WW fan and she felt v simikarly

wtf how old is she?!

So I still want to know, can WW be shot or blown up? Is she immortal?

If only a God can kill a God, I guess not? I assume some cheesy line is incoming with Justice league and presumably Darkseid.

Yes WW is immortal (except for magic, losing her powers etc)