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― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
m/l don't care about these hearings, he'll clam up about things that could implicate him, obfuscate about others, etc. They're gonna be p deferential to a former colleague, even a perjurious one.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
did we discuss the PPP poll todayhttp://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/06/plurality-of-voters-think-trump-obstructed-justice.html
-42% of Trump voters think it's appropriate for GOP politicians to body slam reporters, compared to 45% who think it's inappropriate. By contrast only 6% of Clinton voters think it's ok for them to body slam reporters, to 89% who think it's inappropriate. Overall 22% of voters think it's ok for GOP politicians to body slam reporters, to 69% who think it's not.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
calling Obama "right wing" is patently bullshit FYI
― sexualing healing (crüt), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
They're gonna be p deferential to a former colleague, even a perjurious one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/us/politics/jeff-sessions-senate-hearing-trump-russia.html
Should Sessions Expect Senatorial Courtesy? Not This Time
But who knows?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
Saw an interesting contradiction today that hadn't occurred to me. Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation, but was still involved with the Comey firing. So people said, aha, you said you would recuse, and others said, well, it had nothing to do with Russia, it had to do with his job, specifically how he mishandled the Clinton email situation. But ... in his confirmation hearing he promised to recuse himself from anything involving the Clinton email investigation!
Not that this matters. Not that anything matters anymore.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi believes President Donald Trump will “self-impeach” and that Democrats should wait for the Russia investigations — especially special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe — to play out before pushing to remove him from the Oval Office. Pelosi also believes that if Trump fired Mueller — which some Trump allies are encouraging the president to do — it would be enough to push Republicans to begin seriously considering acting against the president on their own.
Well, so much less work for her.
http://www.joemygod.com/2017/06/13/nancy-pelosi-predicts-trump-will-self-impeach/
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
crüt, i guess it all depends whether you're being deported or bombed, or otoh not being prosecuted for torture or being a Wall St robber baron.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
yes those are the only metrics for determining where someone falls on a political spectrum, good job
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
problem with pelosi's strategy is that it'll probably take at least a year for the investigation to wrap up
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Pelosi knows they need a majority first, then impeachment. Dem House leadership going hard after it now only gives the GOP ammo in the mid-terms and possibly allow them to hold onto their majority.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
― sexualing healing (crüt), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:14 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. the sheer number of helpful regulations and EOs that the trump admin has undone in the past few months has demonstrated that Obama actually did make the US a less shitty place for the past 8 years.
foreign affairs is a different story obv, but we've unfortunately yet to see what a truly non-interventionist US foreign policy looks like. Unless you count George Washington, I guess
― black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
idk, what do people expect to learn at this Sessions hearing? Does anyone think any new info is gonna come out? Seems like the most that can be hoped for is another unforced error like his first "I had no communications with the Russians" one (which has not amounted to much just yet)
xp
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
god I wish Trump would just fire Mueller already
― frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Obama was the president of a stubbornly capitalist country. Strike one.
Said country has an often-rapacious business climate and an insufficiently restrained financial sector; he failed to dismantle these root and branch. Strike two.
Said country has a definitely rapacious health care-industrial complex; he may have tried to nudge it a few inches toward humaneness, but he failed to completely replace it with a more enlightened system. Strike three.
He also permitted that country to retain a strong military with an apparent addiction to disastrous intervention. He utterly failed to convince the country at large to change this. Strike, um, four.
― may the florist be with you (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
hey why is sessions willing to testify in the first place? seems easier to just refuse to
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
anyone to the right of me is ipso facto right wing, strike seventy-eleven
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
Things to watch for:
Will Sessions throw Comey or Mueller under the bus?
Will he perjure himself or explain past perjuries?
Will he explain his Russia meetings?
Will he clarify his role in any further investigations?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
not really sure what you mean here. Obviously Comey's persona non grata w the administration now. Dunno what he could say that would actually damage Mueller.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
nothing will happen. GOP/ right wing mediaverse will claim "win". half of electorate will shrug or bathe in lib tears.
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
For example, making disparaging remarks about their character, actions, or biases. Calling into question the validity of their work.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
Trump says Comey is a liar, will Sessions back this up?
maybe he will just admit everything.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
ugh fuck this cracker ass motherfucker
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
So he's already perjured himself, right?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
A wedge between Sessions and Trump - even a tiny one - would benefit humankind.
Sessions is genuinely dangerous. If he says something even slightly wrong or unTrumpian, he will be disowned and cast out to the cornfield with Comey et al.
So I'm glad he's talking; this increases the chances he will accidentally say something true, which T. needs to contradict via tweet. Or maybe he just strays slightly from the Trumpian line. Or he says something today that T. randomly decides isn't the case tomorrow.
― may the florist be with you (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
I would have thought sessions was careful, but he's already proven himself careless.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
Let's get EVERYBODY testifying, as often as possible. I personally don't care much about Russia; I just want these rabid dogs to be snarling at each other for a while; it distracts them from turning round and eating the people I care about.
― may the florist be with you (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
he's stammering and stumbling over his words a lot
also i feel like everything he's saying is a lie. hopefully he'll trip himself up
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link
Such a strong denial is just asking for trouble
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
exactly
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
i can't understand anything this asshole says, it's all buried in a thick impenetrable southern drawl
― marcos, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
He's basically Sen. Tankerbell disguised as a Keebler elf
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
otm
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
lol moodles that's perfect
Sessions is def the most dangerous person in the administration so I would love to see him go down but not holding my breath
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
the near-perfect nexus of punchable voice + punchable face that is jeff sessions....pretty miraculous.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
I don't know if he is most dangerous, but he does come off the most nefarious.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
GTFO with turning the Russia inquiry into a platform for your drug program.
― smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
He's off on a wild tangent now
― Moodles, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
using this as a chance to go off about his new drug war gtfo
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
fucking asshole with a drug war hard on
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
hey he just wants to talk about the REAL ISSUES
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
is he recommending locking up pharma CEOs
cuz that's whose to blame for this opioid crap
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
Ah say son, what's the gag - I say, what's the gag, son? Gag, that is?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
would watch if his testimony consisted entirely of Foghorn Leghorn lines
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
it doesn't?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
speaking of Foghorn Leghorn he just said "Ah nevah -- nevah, that is..."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
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― Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link