On the one hand, he's an unrepentant serial rapist with dozens of accusers. On the other, he used to give Rudy zerberts and hide enormous sandwiches from Claire and it was all very heartwarming and hilarious. Who could possibly be expected to separate fiction from reality and do the right thing? Who?
fuck you for this
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:03 (seven years ago) link
?
Unless something unforeseen came to light over the course of the trial, I have to assume that attitude is playing some role in the hung jury, although I don't understand it. I loved his work as much as anybody, but the idea that the lingering memory of his public persona might be enough to exonerate him is baffling to me.
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
fuck you for reducing the pain and trauma of more than 20 women into a sarcastic quip
fuck you for reducing the cultural impact of The Cosby Show and its breakthrough representation of the black middle class to "he used to give Rudy zerbets and hide enormous sandwiches from Claire"
just shut the fuck up
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link
the fact that you can't even see why someone would be telling you to shut the fuck up is the surest sign possible that you really need to shut the fuck up right now
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
Was not expecting that when I clicked on this. OL, that was not well thought out. Dan, calm down, it's Old Lunch.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link
Apologies all around. Dan's concerns mirror my own, the whole situation has been disturbing and disgusting from the start, and I was misguided in flippantly expressing my disgust towards a hung jury. I am sorry.
― I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
this is a stupid fucking hill to die on.
― evol j, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link
I can't say I'm completely surprised at this result--since I live in the trial area and there are still vocal Cosby defenders around here, including some of my co-workers
― President Keyes, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
there is plenty of "fuck you" to go around, evol j
kiss my entire black ass
― a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:36 (seven years ago) link
Lunch, I'm no lawyer, but I would honestly like to hope that 12 jurors taxed with deliberating whether someone commited a single crime after days of evidence and arguments aren't sitting around litigating Cosby Show episodes
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link
there's probably one juror who's all "hey, remember that one with Stevie Wonder..." while everyone else rolls their eyes and says stfu
(speaking mostly from my experience on juries tbh)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link
Yeah it's always one asshole
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link
http://www.gablescinema.com/media/filmassets/slides/12_angry_men_5.png
"It was like... 'Jammin on the one. Jammin on the one'"
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:51 (seven years ago) link
to be fair most of the people defending him and calling the women liars are the "Bill Cosby would never do that" crowd, wouldn't be surprising if there was one such guy person the jury
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
Usually they ask you pretty much point-black if you have a bias
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
point-blank, lol
― Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:58 (seven years ago) link
those questions generally seem to get answered according to how much the person does/does not want to serve on the jury
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 June 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link
Mistrial.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link
our legal system is broken
― sleeve, Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
it's mostly that jurors don't know wtf "reasonable doubt" is anymore thanks to CSI effect and other bullshit phenomena.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link
A jury has found Bill Cosby guilty of drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in his suburban Pennsylvania home in 2004. The jury handed down the guilty verdict on all three counts of indecent aggravated assault after more than 12 hours of deliberation, following a retrial that lasted more than two weeks.Cosby’s conviction concludes an acrimonious case that played out in the courtroom and in the press. In 2014 and 2015, dozens of women came forward with allegations that the comedian had drugged and sexually abused them. The statute of limitations had long since expired in almost all of those cases.
Cosby’s conviction concludes an acrimonious case that played out in the courtroom and in the press. In 2014 and 2015, dozens of women came forward with allegations that the comedian had drugged and sexually abused them. The statute of limitations had long since expired in almost all of those cases.
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/26/17272470/bill-cosby-trial-verdict-guilty-sexual-assault-andrea-constand
― Simon H., Thursday, 26 April 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
pretty obviously the correct verdict, but nothing about the situation prompts me to feel like cheering. sad, yes. heartened, no.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
a lot better than the alternative
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
i'm heartened in the sense that people who think they can get away with this shit because of their cultural status should feel a little less secure. I hope it's not a blip but more of a trend going forward.
― omar little, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link
part of the whole Weinstein/Ratner/Spacey/etc trend, and so on.
― omar little, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
BILL COSBY GUILTY!!!!
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
Bye bye, fucker
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 26 April 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
nothing about the situation prompts me to feel like cheering. sad, yes. heartened, no.
this?
Incredible scenes as women run weeping from the courtroom immediately after Cosby is found GUITLY, and tearfully embrace one another. pic.twitter.com/5GWThXycx9— David Mack (@davidmackau) April 26, 2018
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
guit.ly
― Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
i feel pretty heartened by this
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
Bill Cosby's publicist seems to be saying here that Cosby will die and then be resurrected and go on to become the basis for a worldwide religion pic.twitter.com/5kLAaszFMu— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) September 25, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link
Well shit.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/30/arts/television/bill-cosby-release-conviction.html
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
sounds like the prosecution really fucked up this one
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
Yeah this thread spells it out on that front:
This is the key finding of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania that explains its reversal of the Cosby decision: the prior DA promised non-prosecution to force Cosby to waive his Fifth Amendment privilege and testify in a civil case, he did, then they prosecuted him with it. pic.twitter.com/TUT17IMOAr— SuspendedHat (@Popehat) June 30, 2021
The decision never says Cosby isn't guilty of what he did.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
Yeah. And it's hard to know if they could have gotten a conviction without the incriminating statements in the depositions, which he only gave because of the prior prosecutor's assurances. It's a legal mess.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link
that seems like.... unfortunately....the correct ruling
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link
Right ruling but fuck, the damage this is going to do to the poor victims.
― not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Hopefully they still feel the validation of the conviction, even if the fucker's out of jail.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link
American institutions approaching soviet levels of incompetence
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
The original guilty verdict was correct. This decision doesn’t dispute that.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean this still isn't going to be spun as a "victory" for Cosby. I mean, see Phylicia Rashad's tweet already.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link
It doesn’t mean the courts are incompetent. There was an error made by the original prosecutor (castor) in granting immunity, and that opened the door to this successful appeal. In the soviet union, the legal system was not characterized by an excess of due process considerations. Quite the reverse.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
I imagine Rashad’s tweet is self serving. Her legacy is tied to his.
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Monique Judge had a few things to say about that tweet
So in this instance, kids, your favorite TV mom is loud and wrong. There was no miscarriage of justice, and Cosby is being released on a technicality. I will explain it all in this thread. https://t.co/K9HtjpLC1Y— Titty Roux (@thejournalista) June 30, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
Could the court try him again, but not use any of Cosby's statements as evidence? This would be similar to what would have happened had they never given him the deal for the civil case, wouldn't it?
― nickn, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
I think that would be double jeopardy
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
it can't, the issue wasn't the use of his statements as evidence but the original promise not to prosecute him which he relied on by testifying in the civil case
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
not a double jeopardy issue at all. treeship is now disbarred.
Can i still practice board lawyering?
― treeship., Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
no you are disbarred
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link