Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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"“I have people knocking down my door to talk to the presidential personnel office,” said White House press secretary Sean Spicer. “There is a huge demand to join this administration.”"

That's actually called a protest- note their signs

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Monday, 19 June 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link

I saw Chris Hayes refer to the idea of appending a substitute amendment to a bill which would be changed at the last minute in order to get the AHCA passed without being seen at all as a new strategy. I could swear I've heard this attempted somewhere before.
I watched a load of Colbert Reports and Daily Shows from the start of 2013 over the last couple of months, so wonderi9ng if it was there. Or was it tried somewhere else earlier this year?
Either way sounds like a revolting thing to try to do. Gosh do these people have no fellow feeling for those effected by the results of this bill?

Stevolende, Monday, 19 June 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

I thought once they have their Mystery Bill, they plan to pass it in TWO days?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 June 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link

Gosh do these people have no fellow feeling for those affected by the results of this bill?

they sure do! they're excited to end the theft-by-taxes afflicting our blessed *job creators*

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 June 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

I thought once they have their Mystery Bill, they plan to pass it in TWO days?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), 19. juni 2017 13:53 (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But they still need a CBO review. Which takes at least a week. Which means... this Thursday to the CBO at the very very latest, in order to get it passed by June 30th.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link

This seems like exactly the sort of thing they should rush in secret.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

Pushback was pretty significant and effective last time. How in the world does anybody defend their vote on anything assembled in secret with no public debate? Last time they boasted they hadn't read the bill. This time, dozens of people haven't even seen it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Q72qYWxKQ

, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

"Either way sounds like a revolting thing to try to do. Gosh do these people have no fellow feeling for those effected by the results of this bill?"

If there are enough loopholes and procedural wonky BS then basically there are in effect no rules at all and they can do whatever they can scheme up in their Legion of Doom HQ

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Monday, 19 June 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

just saw a report that the Republicans are considering cancelling a chunk of their summer vacation to work on their agenda. Summer school!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:13 (six years ago) link

a whole party of irmfried eberls

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Monday, 19 June 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link

But they were supposed to have their agenda done by now... Things aren't going according to plan, not for McConnell either, is all I'm saying. He will still do a fuckton of damage, of course.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 June 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

According to an article I read last week (VOX?), keeping the bill out of sight has also quashed domestic opposition – or so the GOP hopes.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

How hard can it be to hammer out an agenda that was so neatly summarized by Axl in the chorus of 'Civil War'?

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 June 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

Well, even with all the secrecy, CBO guidance, and a House bill to work from, they've been working for a month and a half and it has to be done really really soon.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

and it will be! never fear! the kochs, the mercers, the scaifes, the bradleys, the de voses -- all the real people, represented by ALEC -- want tax cuts, and tax cuts they shall get! if 20,000,000 people lose healthcare, if 1,000,000s are subject again to medical bankruptcy, oh well -- small price for freedom and progress!

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

Hahahah Jason Chaffetz suddenly feels bold all of a sudden as he preps the exit

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jason-chaffetz-slams-trump_us_59475dc5e4b01eab7a2eacc0

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

"almost as bad as obama" lol fuck that asshole, can't even get a dig at donald trump without being a piece of shit about it

marcos, Monday, 19 June 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

he needs to fire the IRS chief, see

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

Gotta keep that sweet gig at Fox News (I assume).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link

https://www.upguard.com/breaches/the-rnc-files oooof

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

The RNC Files: Inside the Largest US Voter Data Leak

In what is the largest known data exposure of its kind, UpGuard’s Cyber Risk Team can now confirm that unsecured databases containing the sensitive personal details of over 198 million American voters was left exposed to the internet by a firm working on behalf of the Republican National Committee (RNC) in their efforts to elect Donald Trump. The data, which was stored in a publicly accessible cloud server owned by Republican data firm Deep Root Analytics, included 1.1 terabytes of entirely unsecured personal information compiled by DRA and at least two other Republican contractors, TargetPoint Consulting, Inc. and Data Trust. In total, the personal information of potentially near all of America’s 200 million registered voters was exposed, including names, dates of birth, home addresses, phone numbers, and voter registration details, as well as data described as “modeled” voter ethnicities and religions.

Worth a read, to say the least.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

LOCK THEM UP

If 198 million is accurate, that's probably every registered voter.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/turnout.php

El Tomboto, Monday, 19 June 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

that should be a maga cap rly, but it's the best i can do

tbf a lot of that data is already publicly available right?

marcos, Monday, 19 June 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

if it wasn't before it sure is now

in the future, everyone will have all of the data, this is actually a natural step towards full communism and was predicted by marx

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

yet more evidence of this administration's commitment to being the most radically transparent in history (by mistake)

How in the world does anybody defend their vote on anything assembled in secret with no public debate?

they wrote behind closed doors w lobbyists for the original ACA bill 8 years ago so may as well do it again. is it past or is it future? between this and the "witch hunt" language and lawyer media circus ripped right from 1996 the past is repeating faster and faster. just like circling a drain.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Lol Adam, it's not at all the same.

Frederik B, Monday, 19 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

hey wrote behind closed doors w lobbyists for the original ACA bill 8 years ago so may as well do it again

and the bill was debated and pieced together in over hundreds of hours of public forums. You'd turn on CSPAN randomly in the afternoon and there would be yet another hearing.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

the idea of appending a substitute amendment to a bill which would be changed at the last minute

I think this tactic even has a name: gut and stuff.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Well, here we are.

Here's how one conservative House staffer described waiting for the Senate health care bill. How others are feeling: https://t.co/3nFH4ZakxP pic.twitter.com/r8mz35iuCL

— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) June 19, 2017

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link

And also you know that going to see the new Star Wars movies is going to result in the preventable deaths of thousands of people but you go anyway because Star Wars!

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

was the house version of this the prequels then, i guess?

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

jfc

Nhex, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

wait...so was the actual obamacare the original trilogy, then? what a weird metaphor. this conservative house staffer needs to rethink things

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

my brain hurts

marcos, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

If McConnell uses reconciliation, then the bill can't increase the deficit, therefore he'll HAVE to keep the House tax cuts.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

yes

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

idk if it will accomplish much tbh

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

but when you don't have many avenues of power open to you, whadayagonnado

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

Expose the bill, get protestors riled up.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

If McConnell uses reconciliation, then the bill can't increase the deficit, therefore he'll HAVE to keep the House tax cuts.

Don't understand this argument; removing the House tax cut decreases the deficit. The tax cut is the goal, it's the benefit cuts that reconciliation forces him to keep.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 June 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

genuinely glad to see some spine here

global tetrahedron, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link


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