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yeah...but also fuck you maggie haberman?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
i get her point but i'm sunk in whine drunk
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
Welp, guess it's time to stop resisting. Brb I'm buying a red hat and building a shrine to my new daddy.
Thanks for the ace commentary NYT
― black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
haberman is a good reporter
― marcos, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:11 (six years ago) link
i knooooow :-/
i'm just mad because my team lost
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link
She's a great reporter but she's a bad pundit
― black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
Smirky shit like that is what keeps Republicans taking her phone calls, which is what makes her a valuable reporter.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link
Robert Costa doesn't smirk.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
the Democratic Party's candidates are the core of the Resistance. How could the NYT conceive of anything else?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
I mean, Hillary said she joined it! Case closed!
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:50 (six years ago) link
most pundits are bad
― maura, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link
They got groovy wiggly tails
― layda be cry (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link
Why the fuck would he care? He doesn't care about anything.
dude, do you not pay attention to anything that he says/tweets? he is PERENNIALLY butthurt, about the crowds at his inauguration being "underestimated", at not winning the popular vote, at not getting to ban muslims, etc etc etc. He cares about his ego and his reputation, abundantly, to his detriment - if anything will send him to jail, it's his inability to let a slight go without tweeting something self-incriminating in response.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 07:16 (six years ago) link
I meant he doesn't care about anything enough to quit. This is a guy who found the one poll that put him at a mere 50% approval and boasted about it. He's not going anywhere of his own volition, even (I suspect) if he is impeached or jailed (which he won't be).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:33 (six years ago) link
No mention of his state visit in the Queen's Speech. Please let him take a pop at her via twitter dot com
― stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link
I heard yesterday that the idea that you couldn't prosecute an incumbent President was more of a norm than a law. & it was based on the idea that it would cause major disruption if it was seen that the office of president could be so compromised. Further to that the idea that the President was known to be under investigation had already caused that lack of faith in the role so there was now no reason not to go ahead with a prosecution.That quite apart from the lack of belief in the role that 45 is causing all by himself.So fingers crossed that good prevails and utter corruption doesn't.But not holding my breath, like.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link
If this guy in Georgia couldn't flip that seat, there is no way anything is happening to Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link
Oh, look, I see that the House just blocked that tougher Russian sanctions bill.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link
Hm hm hm
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-21/trump-russia-and-those-shadowy-sater-deals-at-bayrock
But that doesn't address national security and other problems that might arise for the president if Russia is involved in Trump, either through potentially compromising U.S. business relationships or through funds that flowed into his wallet years ago. In that context, a troubling history of Trump's dealings with Russians exists outside of Russia: in a dormant real-estate development firm, the Bayrock Group, which once operated just two floors beneath the president's own office in Trump Tower.Bayrock partnered with the future president and his two eldest children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka, on a series of real-estate deals between 2002 and about 2011, the most prominent being the troubled Trump Soho hotel and condominium in Manhattan.
Bayrock partnered with the future president and his two eldest children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka, on a series of real-estate deals between 2002 and about 2011, the most prominent being the troubled Trump Soho hotel and condominium in Manhattan.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link
During the years that Bayrock and Trump did deals together, the company was also a bridge between murky European funding and a number of projects in the U.S. to which the president once leant his name in exchange for handsome fees. Icelandic banks that dealt with Bayrock, for example, were easy marks for money launderers and foreign influence, according to interviews with government investigators, legislators, and others in Reykjavik, Brussels, Paris and London. Trump testified under oath in a 2007 deposition that Bayrock brought Russian investors to his Trump Tower office to discuss deals in Moscow, and said he was pondering investing there.
"It's ridiculous that I wouldn't be investing in Russia," Trump said in that deposition. "Russia is one of the hottest places in the world for investment."
One of Bayrock's principals was a career criminal named Felix Sater who had ties to Russian and American organized crime groups. Before linking up with the company and with Trump, he had worked as a mob informant for the U.S. government, fled to Moscow to avoid criminal charges while boasting of his KGB and Kremlin contacts there, and had gone to prison for slashing apart another manβs face with a broken cocktail glass.
In a series of interviews and a lawsuit, a former Bayrock insider, Jody Kriss, claims that he eventually departed from the firm because he became convinced that Bayrock was actually a front for money laundering.
this this THIS is the story. Charles Pierce wrote about Sater a few months ago. Few other journalists have picked up on it.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link
noted red-ink enthusiast josh marshall was kicking it around for a while too
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link
Yeah it seems to be starting to crest a bit more, especially if Mueller and team are locking onto it. Schindler had also written about it (in the Observer IIRC, amusingly enough).
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link
Dutch journalists made a documentary about Trump's ties with Russia (though Bayrock, KazBay, etc), it aired a month ago or so, the English version is on youtube:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UR2YQQ9J8U(They tracked down Sater at his house (at about 42:00))
― willem, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link
(that's an informally merged version of the two episodes. the original episodes are here: 1) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald Trump: the Russians and 2) ZEMBLA - The dubious friends of Donald trump: King of Diamonds)
― willem, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
zembla, the zairean man-boy love association
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
didn't someone link the whowhatwhy pieces? lotta sater stuff there. the thesis is that sater has been so useful to the fbi's investigation of the russian mob that they've been hesitant to "use him up" on the trump investigation. i'm not sure it quite holds water but there are certainly a lot of gory details.
https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/03/27/fbi-cant-tell-trump-russia/https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/04/05/felix-sater-problematical-friend-trump-forgot/
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 14:18 (six years ago) link
"I heard yesterday that the idea that you couldn't prosecute an incumbent President was more of a norm than a law. & it was based on the idea that it would cause major disruption if it was seen that the office of president could be so compromised. Further to that the idea that the President was known to be under investigation had already caused that lack of faith in the role so there was now no reason not to go ahead with a prosecution.That quite apart from the lack of belief in the role that 45 is causing all by himself.So fingers crossed that good prevails and utter corruption doesn't.But not holding my breath, like"
I was under the impression you can prosecute but only the Senate can do the prosecutin'
― Dean of the University (Latham Green), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
I think the alternative viewpoint was that it wasn't possible for an incumbent President to actually be prosecuted. So he would have to cease to be a President before he could be prosecuted. e.g. Nixon only becoming prosecutable once he resigned but then being almost instantly pardoned by Ford.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
is this from maddow?
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
The irony of Trump stamping his name on everything is that everything connects to Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
Sources reported that @SenateMajLdr's cheeks distended to many times their original size. https://t.co/1Z625GhZ9g pic.twitter.com/W3tsSlJOsj— The Onion (@TheOnion) June 20, 2017
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
an op-ed today in the NYT by lowell weicker! that's a blast from my connecticut past. forgot that he was on the watergate commission AND i forgot that he was still alive.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
and boy did Nixon and Reagan hate him
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
i've seen 6, none w/in shouting distance of great
but looks good next to Gaspar Noe
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
sorry
well sure Weicker was one of the last lib/mod Republicans
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
Worth a read: http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/13/nyregion/weicker-an-outcast-runs-again.html?pagewanted=all
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link
i like lowell. i like that he started his own party to run for governor. he was more of a republicrat. he had nice things to say about democrats. sheesh, yeah, another era...
loved ella though. god love you, ella! we won't forget you.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
i like that he was #fucktrump early on too.
http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Weicker-Donald-Trump-a-bigoted-con-artst-6449424.php
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
In the midst of it all, surely Alfred can appreciate that there is love
Joe Scarborough wrote a love song for Mika π https://t.co/vkixoD9yzJ pic.twitter.com/LxJqzSX1b3— Connor Ryan (@connortryan) June 21, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
He and Sekulow can go out on tour together. It'll be the Hunter Thompson/G. Gordon Liddy lecture tour of its time.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
Ned, I'm eating lunch.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
It'll be the Hunter Thompson/G. Gordon Liddy lecture tour of its time.
I saw Liddy w/ Tim Leary -- was this a different one?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
Was deeply under the impression Thompson/Liddy had swung through SoCal together in the late eighties -- possibly conflating two separate appearances, though.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
ok, i saw Gordo/Tim in '80-81
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
Morbs kept the ticket stub in a shoebox under his bed.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
Later, he kept Liddy there.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
explains that scratching noise
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link
guys, the georgia-6 result was bad. no need to sugarcoat it. it's just one data point though, and the overall trend when you look at the other special elections seems good
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
whoops meant for the other thread
i have some old ticket stubs, haven't seen that one
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link