Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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Wtf they are removing the individual mandate and replacing it with... nothing? How does this not cause the whole thing to collapse?

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

You don't think their offices have caller ID? I'm not saying these people are ace detectives but I think don't think they're dumb enough to see hundreds of calls from 617 area codes and say "Man, a lot of my Nevada voters bought their cell phones in Boston!"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

likely result seen in images

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capuchin_Crypt

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

Wtf they are removing the individual mandate and replacing it with... nothing? How does this not cause the whole thing to collapse?

Because they're also replacing Medicaid with... nothing

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

lol of course thx eephus

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link

Wtf they are removing the individual mandate and replacing it with... nothing? How does this not cause the whole thing to collapse?

They're replacing it with tax cuts (on the wealthy). If the system collapses, and it hurts you, it's your fault for being vulnerable in the first place.

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

these fucking evil pricks hope they rot in whatever stupid hell they believe in

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

A lot of stuff could be said about the AHCA bill, but at least the CBO said that the system would be stable under it - as they say it would be without anything done to it. I don't get how a new CBO score doesn't explain that everything will fall apart if you move the mandate and do... nothing, then. And they say the CBO should give their score tomorrow or monday, so... They must have run this by them already, so they must know that.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

I mean, we all know they are insane and evil, but this is insane and evil.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

shitty CBO score only matters if it instantly generates millions of calls in swing Senator states

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

which could very well happen

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

they are tribal. if you are not part of their tribe, they not only don't give a shit what happens to you -- they're amused by your suffering

xpost

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Re the discussion of aide sleuthery above: I live in Boston and have a 917 number. Cell phones have changed the "area codes are infallible" thing in a big way.

maura, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

I wonder if they made it flawed on purpose just so they can say they tried because really they realize its in their interests for there to be NO REPEAL

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

we elect these people to make complex laws that they can't even comprehend and I don't trust them

fixed that for you mh

maura, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

meanwhile, deja vu ghraib

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ap-us-questions-detainees-yemen-prisons-torture-abuses/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I see someone's already nervous about next year.

Sen. Heller on Sebate GOP health care draft: "At first glance, I have serious concerns..." pic.twitter.com/l5TvIOfsMu

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) June 22, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

I mean...what's even their long game here? How do they plan on dealing with furious constituents whose loved ones are dropping dead (the ones who can put two and two together, anyway, and know who's responsible)?

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

i wouldn't feel secure about this thing not passing unless there were at least a half-dozen senators willing to put a No out there right now. otherwise (as has been pointed out in multiple places), McConnell is just going to make minor tweaks as a sop to the holdouts so they can act like they won some great victory for their constituents by "forcing" a slightly slower repeal of Medicaid expansion or undoing the block on federal funding for Planned Parenthood, etc.

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well? And they only have until next friday to do this...

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

I mean...what's even their long game here? How do they plan on dealing with furious constituents whose loved ones are dropping dead (the ones who can put two and two together, anyway, and know who's responsible)?

prevent them from voting

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

as I said elsewhere, so-called moderate Republicans are polite because they have the patience to wait and name their price.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

"fixed that for you mh"

touche

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well? And they only have until next friday to do this...

this is a good question, idk the answer.

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

this is hard to watch:

pic.twitter.com/4LrlZKgYeO

— Andrew Desiderio (@desiderioDC) June 22, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well?

I think as long as an initial version of the bill has been scored that's all that's required to make the bill eligible for a vote...?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

well, this takes care of one very concerned and troubled moderate:

What's in the bill: The bill would establish a $2 billion fund for states for programs to "support substance use disorder treatment and recovery support services for individuals with mental or substance use disorders."

What it means: This is a one-time fund for 2018, but will likely be favored by senators from states hit hard by the opioid crisis. This was a key ask from Ohio Sen. Rob Portman.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

never really considered Portman a swing vote on this tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

everyone knows it only takes one year to cure an entire state of chemical dependency

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

we should get Portman on opioids, put him on treatment, and check back in a year.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

just give him a hot shot and get it over with

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

Portman is no moderate anyway and never was.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

He broke with GOP orthodoxy after his son came out, maybe we can get that same son addicted to fentanyl.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

trump tweets that he has no tapes. tweet clearly written by a lawyer, and posted today to distract from healthcare.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

but are there high quality .wav files

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

best listened to on PONO

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

Portman asked for 45 billion over 10 years, he is selling his vote for nothing.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

These people are monsters.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

that's like a rounding error

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

yeah I still dont get this logic - in order to deliver on a promise to our base we have to pass a "health care" bill that thoroughly fucks over our base

I guess the real 'base' is their donors. democracy is awesome.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

This bill is an act of mass murder targeting poor and working class people. It's just a less baroque version of "the purge." There should be riots.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

in unrelated news, this fuckin guy

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/trump-confirms-he-wants-a-solar-border-wall-were-working-it-out

sleeve, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

A very 'drafted by a lawyer' two-tweet message here.

With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

...whether there are "tapes" or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

All the inside baseball scheming shit the "moderate Republicans" are doing is a disgusting and stupid farce.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

No such thing as a moderate Republican.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

Hence the quotation marks

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

Appropriate for Trump's tweets up there too.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

BTW, we should all remember this chain of events:

Trump fires Comey
Trump sasses on Twitter re 'tapes'
Comey goes, "Yeah, leak time."
*shenanigans*
Rosenstein appoints Mueller

Well done there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

Donald Trump is most likely clinically incapable of feeling empathy and even he, for a moment, acknowledged that this bill is fucked up.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link


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