Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

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I wonder if they made it flawed on purpose just so they can say they tried because really they realize its in their interests for there to be NO REPEAL

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

we elect these people to make complex laws that they can't even comprehend and I don't trust them

fixed that for you mh

maura, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:09 (six years ago) link

meanwhile, deja vu ghraib

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ap-us-questions-detainees-yemen-prisons-torture-abuses/

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

I see someone's already nervous about next year.

Sen. Heller on Sebate GOP health care draft: "At first glance, I have serious concerns..." pic.twitter.com/l5TvIOfsMu

— Phil Mattingly (@Phil_Mattingly) June 22, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

I mean...what's even their long game here? How do they plan on dealing with furious constituents whose loved ones are dropping dead (the ones who can put two and two together, anyway, and know who's responsible)?

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

i wouldn't feel secure about this thing not passing unless there were at least a half-dozen senators willing to put a No out there right now. otherwise (as has been pointed out in multiple places), McConnell is just going to make minor tweaks as a sop to the holdouts so they can act like they won some great victory for their constituents by "forcing" a slightly slower repeal of Medicaid expansion or undoing the block on federal funding for Planned Parenthood, etc.

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well? And they only have until next friday to do this...

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

I mean...what's even their long game here? How do they plan on dealing with furious constituents whose loved ones are dropping dead (the ones who can put two and two together, anyway, and know who's responsible)?

prevent them from voting

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

as I said elsewhere, so-called moderate Republicans are polite because they have the patience to wait and name their price.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

"fixed that for you mh"

touche

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well? And they only have until next friday to do this...

this is a good question, idk the answer.

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

this is hard to watch:

pic.twitter.com/4LrlZKgYeO

— Andrew Desiderio (@desiderioDC) June 22, 2017

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

But if they make tweaks, won't the CBO have to score those as well?

I think as long as an initial version of the bill has been scored that's all that's required to make the bill eligible for a vote...?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

well, this takes care of one very concerned and troubled moderate:

What's in the bill: The bill would establish a $2 billion fund for states for programs to "support substance use disorder treatment and recovery support services for individuals with mental or substance use disorders."

What it means: This is a one-time fund for 2018, but will likely be favored by senators from states hit hard by the opioid crisis. This was a key ask from Ohio Sen. Rob Portman.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

never really considered Portman a swing vote on this tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

everyone knows it only takes one year to cure an entire state of chemical dependency

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link

we should get Portman on opioids, put him on treatment, and check back in a year.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

just give him a hot shot and get it over with

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

Portman is no moderate anyway and never was.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

He broke with GOP orthodoxy after his son came out, maybe we can get that same son addicted to fentanyl.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

trump tweets that he has no tapes. tweet clearly written by a lawyer, and posted today to distract from healthcare.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

but are there high quality .wav files

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link

best listened to on PONO

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

Portman asked for 45 billion over 10 years, he is selling his vote for nothing.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

These people are monsters.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

that's like a rounding error

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

yeah I still dont get this logic - in order to deliver on a promise to our base we have to pass a "health care" bill that thoroughly fucks over our base

I guess the real 'base' is their donors. democracy is awesome.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

This bill is an act of mass murder targeting poor and working class people. It's just a less baroque version of "the purge." There should be riots.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

in unrelated news, this fuckin guy

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/trump-confirms-he-wants-a-solar-border-wall-were-working-it-out

sleeve, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

A very 'drafted by a lawyer' two-tweet message here.

With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

...whether there are "tapes" or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

All the inside baseball scheming shit the "moderate Republicans" are doing is a disgusting and stupid farce.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

No such thing as a moderate Republican.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

Hence the quotation marks

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link

Appropriate for Trump's tweets up there too.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

BTW, we should all remember this chain of events:

Trump fires Comey
Trump sasses on Twitter re 'tapes'
Comey goes, "Yeah, leak time."
*shenanigans*
Rosenstein appoints Mueller

Well done there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

Donald Trump is most likely clinically incapable of feeling empathy and even he, for a moment, acknowledged that this bill is fucked up.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

I would bet good money that Trump was just aping something someone else said to him. The fuck does he care if the bill is mean?

I Love It When They Call Me Big Pharma (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

Maybe. I hope bad things happen to him.

Treeship, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

I would think he sorta understands he is breaking a key promise, but he def doesn't care this bill will kill.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

jfc w h o c a r e s what he thinks or what his motivations are

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

why would a sound recording be any kind of evidence anyway since such a thing could easily be doctored, edited etc with no way of knowing - any idiot with garageband coudl already make a trump comey tape spliced together

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

lifting the restrictions on healthcare ceo pay is some fuckin bullshit good job gop

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 22 June 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

FWIW

Cruz, Lee, Paul, Johnson announce they're not ready to vote for health bill: pic.twitter.com/NvF2q3OsTl

— John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) June 22, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

'there are provisions in this draft that represent an improvement to our current health care system,' GTFO

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

opposition is opposition, I will take it. Maybe they will even get to make the bill worse, which will drive moderates away...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

(sorry forgot standard "moderate" scare quotes there)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

Paul is probably the best bet here, he seems like the only one potentially crazy enough to hold out even if he could be the deciding vote.

evol j, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

[Don LaFontaine voice]

He was promised the stars.
Wealth. Fame. Power.
He was ready.

But then, he was humiliated.

Now, it's payback time.

Ted Cruz stars in 'We are not ready to vote for this bill BUT... We're open to negotiation."

Dun-dun-dunnnnnnn

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

wtf at conservatives being the ones to speak out. I mean, we already knew that from the house, but it's still so fucked up.

Frederik B, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link


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