The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

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imo the best thing about them is I think "hmm, that's odd" but don't give it a second thought because it's irrelevant to the plot

mh, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

I honestly can't remember a lot of the second season's middle and I have the suspicion it was that ol' Windom Earle getting up to shenanigans that Ive forgotten

― mh, Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:14 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

something i forgot completely that turned out to be really awesome was all the major briggs abduction stuff

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

I love the 90s Kid Pix / HyperCard stack look of Mr. C's software, too. Something totemic about certain stylizations and variations in the font

Dan I., Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

had a devilish urge to shop david lynch's face onto the boy out strolling with the young girl and post it to fire walk with memes with the legend "when you're not going with Mary anymore" :-/

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

it's a fair cop

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

https://ibb.co/nKdxiQ

Fire!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

aw damn

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

Simply astonishing.

Completely with Old Lunch on this one, having just seen it: “I have virtually no idea what I just watched but that was without a doubt one of the most astounding hours of film I've ever seen.”

I am going to audio-rip the hell out of this episode (well, the part after "The NIN" I mean). I’d buy the ambient soundtrack to this episode, from the Space Odyssey-esque scenes \up until the very nightmarish end. Can’t say the “sound design” isn’t getting its due praise, but really, it deserves even more. In 2007 my album of the year was Lynch’s ‘The Air Is On Fire’, a chilling dark ambient record. This reminded me of that so, so much. Trust me, you need that album in your life.

Catching up, some things I haven’t seen mentioned yet:
- At the gas station/convenience store stuff, I noticed the final note of the sounds underneath that was the first note of TP's Badalamenti theme song.
- LOTS of backwards stuff. The Caretaker-esque music playing in the b/w room/station atop of the rock; the waves crashing at that rock were played in reverse as well. Motion of the man and woman in there, when he pressed the button to turn "it" off, seemed reverse to me too, though I could well be mistaken.

The scene w/the Woodsman and the terrified couple in the car was very "Carnival of Souls."
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, June 26, 2017 3:47 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Verily! I thought of the same thing when I saw it. Ties in nicely with the music/Caretaker stuff, too.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

the band at the end of episode 3 seems yrev very different from the rest of the bands featured so far

nxd, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

the only tv show I’ve heard actually use music from one of the The Caretaker albums was 12 Monkeys on syfy. actually exclaimed “what!” at my television

mh, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

ha that'd be my exact response as well probably.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

interesting to note how hilarious mr c's technology is v the fbi's very normal interfaces. perhaps mr c made everything himself.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link

most surprising music cues I can recall: grindcore masters Grdilink in S1 of Homeland and Subrosa on Limitless. metal nerds be working.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

and uhhhh that Decemberists cue on mad Men lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:50 (six years ago) link

scott walker's "the seventh seal" popped up on THE BLACKLIST, which consistently has top notch music cues.

maura, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

oh also when "Hammond song" appeared on You're the Worst. that ruled.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link

we should probably just have a "great moments in music supervision" thread

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

was it Caretaker? or just something that sounded like Caretaker?

akm, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link

"oh also when "Hammond song" appeared on You're the Worst. that ruled." the Roches song?

akm, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

yup!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link

I would also be happy to hear The Colourfield's version of that song crop up on a soundtrack

or at night (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

love that maura shares in the love of music cues and Spader scene chewing on NBC

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

Realize this is a movie not a show, but the use of Colin Stetson's "Awake on Foreign Shores" in 12 Years a Slave was a huge "holy crap!" moment for me.

Position Position, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

I love the 90s Kid Pix / HyperCard stack look of Mr. C's software, too.

It looks exactly like davidlynch.com in the late 90s - also the menus on his DVDs such as ERASERHEAD 2000 etc.

Anybody else remember the 2-3-frame animations from DL.com - "JUMP ON IT" et al.?

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

Allegedly an experiment carried out by Third Reich scientists working for the SS in a German facility known as Der Riese ("The Giant")[6] near the Wenceslaus mine and close to the Czech border, Die Glocke is described as being a device "made out of a hard, heavy metal" approximately 2.7 metres (9 ft) wide and 3.7 to 4.6 metres (12 to 15 ft) high, having a shape similar to that of a large bell. According to an interview of Witkowski by Cook, this device ostensibly contained two counter-rotating cylinders which would be "filled with a mercury-like substance, violet in color". This metallic liquid was code-named "Xerum 525" and was "stored in a tall thin thermos flask a meter high encased in lead".[7] Additional substances said to be employed in the experiments, referred to as Leichtmetall (light metal), "included thorium and beryllium peroxides".[7] Witkowski describes Die Glocke, when activated, as having an effect zone extending out 150 to 200 metres (490 to 660 ft). Within the zone, crystals would form in animal tissue, blood would gel & separate while plants would decompose into a grease like substance.[7] Witkowski also said that five of the seven original scientists working on the project died in the course of the tests.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 05:19 (six years ago) link

saw saw the newest one. holy shit.

slow motion atomic explosion may be my favorite. love the abstract bits. damn good stuff.

also Twin Peaks in the 50s this is a fantastical dream come true i never knew i wanted now we in classic monster movie mode.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link

the cgi in this was mindblowing. after all the complaints from earlier in the series i felt this one episode was pretty flawless.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:03 (six years ago) link

"filled with a mercury-like substance, violet in color".

hmmm

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/vWigLGD.png

i loved the black and white sections. there were some really beautiful shots.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:09 (six years ago) link

listening to the diane podcast, they mentioned ray shot mr c

in the stomach

twice

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Twin-Peaks-8.png

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:16 (six years ago) link

episode 8 was so good. god i love this show. i dont even care if i dont know any of these characters or if it has nothing to do with the town of Twin Peaks just keep giving us this awesome stuff seriously this rules so much

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link

i loved the sequence when the smoke was coming out of the convenience store and they were playing the footage backward and forward that scene was great

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

and there's still ten more episodes! TEN.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

giddy just contemplating this

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

ok since that lynch quote upthread references things happening in the past/future/present in parallel, im convinced that the giant birthing the laura orb is happening at the same moment we see her get sucked out of the lodge earlier in the series. sending her back for a vengence perhaps.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:58 (six years ago) link

was it Caretaker? or just something that sounded like Caretaker?

― akm, woensdag 28 juni 2017 0:41 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd wager it was something that sounded like it, very much so, but not one of his. Not hard to see Lynch being a fan though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link

It originates from Lynch and Dean Hurley's "The Air is on Fire" ambient album from 2007, around the 47 minute mark of this video:

https://youtu.be/uUdP-xQyFmc?t=47m9s

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

Well I'll be damned

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:34 (six years ago) link

Is nobody hearing that the woodsman says "the horse is the whiter/wider the eyes", not "white of", like there is a very unmistakeably clear rhotic sound? Is this just part of his grizzled prospector accent?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

it's just hard to say "white of" with an unlit cigarette in your mouth so it comes out kinda mumbly

dynamicinterface, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link

Hmm yeah I guess he could be really trying to make the impossible f sound and that's where it comes from. Just stands out cause if you're eliding that letter you'd normally go to "white a" rather than "white errr" as it is here

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

white of, fits w the white horse motif (also Silver Mustang casino)

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

That much is obvious

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

so what does everyone think the black and white steampunk Pixies album cover room w the giant and lady and experimental device is? i saw some people say it was "the other lodge" and there are two lodges, i guess this would be the white lodge? as if something this strange is ultimately that simple and binary. not sure i agree w that i feel like he is taking a more abstracted and decentralized approach to the mythology. the deaths have have been quit out of the blue and unrelated. Laura Palmer is the nuclear at the heart of this atomic explosion but imo the glass box and the kid getting hit by the car and other things are all random deaths swirling around this atomic center.

i think Lynch feels maybe people idolized Laura's death a little too much and he was aware of maybe the creepiness of him putting this image of a murdered and sexualized young girl in the public consciousness. with the new season things are more chaotic. people kill each other left and right. murder has been given back its senselessness. the kid getting killed by the car, this was tragic primarily through its senselessness. this is why there is all this chaotic, seemingly meaningless death. the audience is trying to "piece together the puzzle" and "make sense of it". there is no making sense of death. but we try. this is what this show is about, partially.

i think he chose an overly telegraphed and stylized performance for that scene to highlight this. apart from Harry Dean Stanton (watching over the glowing yellow Tree of Life appearing over the deceased much like the Giant in EP 8 watches the atomic test) these weren't the seasoned Twin Peaks actors we know, they were kind of amateur, to emphasize their vulnerability, and they were trapped in a tragic cliche parental scare video, watching an anonymous kid run out and get killed by a car. the same thing with the 50s murders. we have seen the Woodsman (fwiw Tremaine says "Got a light?" in the original series) with his face flying off sitting in a jail cell in the first episode but all these 50s characters are completely new. he presents an entirely new world. starting with an atomic explosion. this is prime cult stuff, the kind of organized symbolic magic practiced by Harry Smith and Kenneth Anger, it is an act of creation using archetypal symbols. it is about mimicking God's Creation, the beginning of a new world with the Word. the atomic test goes off and David Lynch literally creates an entire new world. i love the montage here w the new diner and stuff, going around town. BOOM. the Big Bang. Creation of a new world.

i hope we get to explore this new world of the 50s Twin Peaks. this scene was shot beautifully. there is a shot of the two kids walking down the road and they start of in light and then walk into shadow for a bit and then back into the light, with this light glow around their outlines the whole time. it was angelic and magical. this would not look as good in color. it really still felt like Twin Peaks, only the imagery was all shifted. it was an amazing alternate universe. im very glad we didn't learn anybody's name in the 50s. right now it is a total mystery. David Lynch is doing the impossible, introducing all of these new mysteries. this slow drip of continuous new mystery is intoxicating. <3 this show forever.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ruhcxPw.png

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

so what does everyone think the black and white steampunk Pixies album cover room w the giant and lady and experimental device is?

imo it's a radiator

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

j/k i'm sympathetic to the idea that it's the white lodge while also thinking that it's not that simple/the binaries in twin peaks are generally way more collapsed than that (my primary example of this is the character of leland)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link


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