The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

oh man, there are so many more. i can't recommend the book highly enough.

(the ectoplasm stuff is only maybe 1% of the book, in case the idea of looking at images of mediums barfing doesn't appeal to everyone for some reason. it's fantastic)

african-american characters in twin peaks:

1. jade
2. this guy: https://files.slack.com/files-tmb/T07R0LRM2-F6183EA49-ff941f4249/idrdwo_1__360.gif

is that it?

Is that a pic of Ernie Hudson? There were about 3 in the original series iirc, not great

You forgot Louie 'Birdsong' Budway (who will be showing up in the revival, apparently). And, ummmmmm...the Jumping Man?

There was the internal affairs guy and I think major Briggs's CO? And a few randos in the pilot

the guy who introduced The Nine Inch Nails

Was gonna suggest if you get Dennis Lim on you can ask him how much is bullshit xp

Looking unlikely :( but we're gonna keep trying!

"not all men" answer: cough cough, actually towns in Washington State that are close to the Canadian border would tend to be > 80% white, Lynch is simply being realistic

That's true, but there is the question of the kinds of roles the few non-white actors get to play (I know you know this, just saying)

don't you "actually" at me, jim

"Lynch is simply being realistic"

lol

Little Jimmy Scott.

mans a realist what can you do

you know, famously realist director david lynch

anyway i'm only shit-stirring a little bit, i realized jade was the only prominent african-american character i could think of, jesse pointed out the guy from above the convenience store, but i was sure there had to be others i was forgetting. ernie hudson was a major oversight obviously.

No it's definitely a convo worth having, which is why we have it itt every few weeks

fuck you

jk

i don't remember race coming up in this thread before but who can keep track. i'll take your word for it

david lynch is an old white dude who liked reagan in the 80s because he thought he would cut red-tape and because he used to play a cowboy in movies; i don't think he knows/cares about controversies regarding representation in film and tv

fuck you

Diane.gif

Was there any suggestion of Diane being a tough bitch before? Because I always imagined her as something like an acquiescent 50s secretary.

No, but everything we knew about her was filtered through Dale

jk

i don't remember race coming up in this thread before but who can keep track. i'll take your word for it

It def has (and there were 2 threads to keep track of at one point) but I do genuinely think it's worth pointing out. I was resigned to this stuff before the series even came out because I'd seen the cast list (& know lynch's MO generally) but it's still disappointing

I was surprised when she turned out to be so angry, but after a while I thought maybe she was be a bitch to people associated with Cooper. Or maybe she wasn't so angry before whatever happened with Cooper.

But imagining Cooper in the original run of the series dictating to an angry fuck-you-ing Diane is interesting.

xp

Have you seen the missing pieces? Dude was an annoying boss

Wasn't Clarence Williams III in the original show? A Mod Squad reunion?

Noooo.... I want to! But I've been waiting for a remote control so I can use my Blu Ray player :-/

xp

I'm sure the characterisation of Diane in the new series is deliberately fucking with people's preconceptions

Xp oh man you're in for a treat, except for that one scene which is vastly improved by imagining Dern offscreen saying "fuck off, Dale"

fuck you

xxpost For sure. Now I'm imagining her receiving tape after tape in the mail and just endlessly complaining to her coworkers. "He expects me to make heads or tails of this shit? STOP PONTIFICATING ABOUT THE FUCKING TREES AND TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO TRANSCRIBE. FUCK YOU, DALE."

Damn I'm getting the personal treatment today

Obligatory here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVpD4JmgeIW/

haha

What's that scene originally from?

I printed out Ronnie Rocket in booklet format so I don't have to read a GD PDF on my phone. I'll report back next week.

jed, I think it's probably from The Missing Pieces?

yep

Cheers.

This is the original scene in The Missing Pieces. It leads into Jeffries's reappearance in the Philadelphia FBI offices, and while it does provide a moment of tonal contrast to Cooper's fear and confusion, I think it's a little too close to awkward fanservice to have worked in FWWM:

https://youtu.be/_YQA0U6zWyY

im not read up on Mark Frost, like at all, i suppose i need to check it out. he wrote the Secret History book?

Haha. That scene is so shit.

He did; I don't think the book is essential reading, though. It goes deep into a number of historical conspiracy theories and suggests connections between them and the Twin Peaks lore (while also sharply diverging from canon on a number of points, from the IRL date of the moon landing to the backstory of Ed and Norma), but most of the connections it draws are more interesting as subtext in the actual series.

The mundane backstories of characters and TP history in in The Secret History are sooooo boring, but I found it worth reading for broader insights about the mythology, plus a peek at stuff Cooper and Briggs got up to around the time of the original series finale. Some fairly crucial info that must be canon b/c it would be hard to discount.

https://i.redd.it/mhq1nvqtlm6z.jpg

Lynch film school c. 1987. He knows his stuff and just likes to play the "naif", methinks; http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5aox2s_surrealist-cinema-bbc-arena-1987-presented-by-david-lynch-part-1-of-2_tv

This is the original scene in The Missing Pieces. It leads into Jeffries's reappearance in the Philadelphia FBI offices, and while it does provide a moment of tonal contrast to Cooper's fear and confusion, I think it's a little too close to awkward fanservice to have worked in FWWM:

https://youtu.be/_YQA0U6zWyY

― one way street, Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:27 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even the fancut leaves that scene out

What about Maya Deren?

http://popcrush.com/files/2015/05/mariah-carey-i-dont-know-her.gif

lol

way upthread someone suggests that Cole is bad at his job or there is something dark going on with him... someone pointed out the end of this trailer might be a clue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPv57KBpJI