The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

xxpost For sure. Now I'm imagining her receiving tape after tape in the mail and just endlessly complaining to her coworkers. "He expects me to make heads or tails of this shit? STOP PONTIFICATING ABOUT THE FUCKING TREES AND TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO TRANSCRIBE. FUCK YOU, DALE."

Damn I'm getting the personal treatment today

Obligatory here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVpD4JmgeIW/

haha

What's that scene originally from?

I printed out Ronnie Rocket in booklet format so I don't have to read a GD PDF on my phone. I'll report back next week.

jed, I think it's probably from The Missing Pieces?

yep

Cheers.

This is the original scene in The Missing Pieces. It leads into Jeffries's reappearance in the Philadelphia FBI offices, and while it does provide a moment of tonal contrast to Cooper's fear and confusion, I think it's a little too close to awkward fanservice to have worked in FWWM:

https://youtu.be/_YQA0U6zWyY

im not read up on Mark Frost, like at all, i suppose i need to check it out. he wrote the Secret History book?

Haha. That scene is so shit.

He did; I don't think the book is essential reading, though. It goes deep into a number of historical conspiracy theories and suggests connections between them and the Twin Peaks lore (while also sharply diverging from canon on a number of points, from the IRL date of the moon landing to the backstory of Ed and Norma), but most of the connections it draws are more interesting as subtext in the actual series.

The mundane backstories of characters and TP history in in The Secret History are sooooo boring, but I found it worth reading for broader insights about the mythology, plus a peek at stuff Cooper and Briggs got up to around the time of the original series finale. Some fairly crucial info that must be canon b/c it would be hard to discount.

https://i.redd.it/mhq1nvqtlm6z.jpg

Lynch film school c. 1987. He knows his stuff and just likes to play the "naif", methinks; http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5aox2s_surrealist-cinema-bbc-arena-1987-presented-by-david-lynch-part-1-of-2_tv

This is the original scene in The Missing Pieces. It leads into Jeffries's reappearance in the Philadelphia FBI offices, and while it does provide a moment of tonal contrast to Cooper's fear and confusion, I think it's a little too close to awkward fanservice to have worked in FWWM:

https://youtu.be/_YQA0U6zWyY

― one way street, Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:27 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even the fancut leaves that scene out

What about Maya Deren?

http://popcrush.com/files/2015/05/mariah-carey-i-dont-know-her.gif

lol

way upthread someone suggests that Cole is bad at his job or there is something dark going on with him... someone pointed out the end of this trailer might be a clue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPv57KBpJI

I only skimmed Secret History when it came out and my girlfriend showed me a line in it that implies Richard Nixon is wearing the green owl ring at one point lol.

he also see's shit in a glass box with Jackie Gleason lol

Nixon showing dougie milford an alien in Jackie Gleason's house is what everyone always points to as proof of frost's book being kitsch but it's one of the best parts

Loosely based on a "true" story told by Gleason's wife!

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/03/a-president-a-comedian-and-pickled-aliens/

gordon cole is most definitely not to be trusted xxxxxp

There's no episode this Sunday?

That is correct. Unfortunately.

Damn.

he is standing in front of a giant atomic explosion. but it makes sense cos David Lynch is God of this universe. he is manifesting the process of creation. the birth of a new world from the word.

what is the Maya Deren joke? i dont find it that weird somebody in the painting department of 70's art school wouldn't hear of a particular experimental film artist. look how hard it is to find her stuff now. part of the problem an avant garde artist has to deal with is distribution. there were far, far less copies of her work floating around back then. when he was in school there was no internet he couldn't just wikipedia Maya Deren and look through youtube for some clips.

is there any reason she is picked in particular? "Meshes of the Afternoon" is great but many film artists work with dreams and mirror and identity. it is classical performance art stuff. the drama of Narcissus.

that avant garde film survey posted above is great. the Man Ray video is very cool to watch. lots of swapping identities. lots of lines and shapes morphing and twisting. are there any good interviews were he talks his classical experimental film influences? he mostly talks about his own process in interviews, which is fascinating, but i do wonder like what he has to say on Brackhage and Fischinger and folks like that? especially this last episode, it felt very influenced by abstract film. stuff like the Zen atomic fluxus works of Yoko Ono and the stop motion sound-image experiments of Norman McLaren.

2. this guy: https://files.slack.com/files-tmb/T07R0LRM2-F6183EA49-ff941f4249/idrdwo_1__360.gif

is that it?

― na (NA), Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:15 PM (four hours ago)

I need your slack username/password to view. Please post ASAP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-YD-ITSs6s

oooooh that rules.

Francis Bacon always a big influence. this is a wonderful documentary on the man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgrO5za0lSY

On the subject of Deren, this video-essay doesn't prove anything about influence, but the affinities between her work and Lynch's are still striking:

https://youtu.be/zCUX4GIv-WI

For the Deren short (IMO) there are explicit references to topology of the house in Lost Highway, split identities, the keys being revealed keys turning up in mouths) - I'm no film historian or expert, far from it but other experts have drawn out those similarities.

The Deren "joke" (with apologies) is just that. Mariah was asked what she thought of Beyoncé and she said she loved her and then was asked what she thought of J-Lo said "I don't know her" as the ultimate dis, because J-Lo was massive at that point. It's no ore than a silly meme, I just liked the idea that Lynch wouldn't know Deren since we were having that discussion already.

That was to Adam. X

many xposts but the pic of Cera made me think this is the perfect show for the trump era- things that happened only a few weeks ago feel like the far distant past

thats pretty cool. yeah she had a great eye for getting the technical aspects right. the pacing and quality of the imageas and sound is up there with a regular normal movie but w this spiritual language of symbols and stuff. alot of early avant garde stuff was very shaky and roughly diy with rapid and nonsensical cuts and w not professional camera work and lighting like you see here. this is what sets apart artists like Deren and Lynch from other avant gardists the ability to communicate in this perhaps disturbing symbolic language through a well-made and inviting (commercial?) execution of the work.

lol jed_ thanks for humoring me a 2nd time that was funny

Brakhage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8r9t135_xY

Tsherassky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l4Q99ibQmc

Adam, I'm talking about things I don't know that much about, so thanks ;)

Ha, xposts to video on Lynch's painting influences, I posted about Hopper after the last episode. Was really slathered all over that one.

How are ppl watching this hint hint

this is Jordan Belson i thought of these during the a bomb test:

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/35876/124657604
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/jordanbelsonallures1961/179152992

turns out this is a Vimeo on demand channel that features a bunch of high quality streaming experimental abstract films of Belson, Oskar Fischinger, Mary Ellen Bute, Jules Engel, etc. i've been looking for a lot of this stuff scrounging for low res excerpt ripped off websites for over ten years now and here it is for streaming in DVD quality. digging with golden shovels.

I haven't actually watched the Tsherassky as a whole for a while but I did then and holy fucking shit, it's amazing.

Eric H of this parish calls it one of the greatest horror movies ever made fwiw (apologies to Eric if I have that wrong)

Darraghmac, it's not how I've been watching it but one way is to go to a site called Solarmovie dot net and scroll down to the search at the bottom of the page and search Twin Peaks.

Deems idk about anyone else but I got a now tv subscription - costs like a fiver a month and I think you get the 1st month free

ymmv obv but I think this is worth paying practically nothing for

Ty Ty I will happily try both