The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

Whoa unrelated but I wanted to give my piece of mind on episode headfuck but this thread is fucking huge so I'm giving my thought on this instead. Took me 10 minutes to scroll to the bottom on my phone with "all messages displayed" and we're on episode 8 of 18. Wouldn't it be healthier to open a new thread each week to discuss every new episode?

could be a good mid-season idea, we're already over 3,000 posts and will definitely hit 10,000+ as new viewers come in. on the back of this discussion about spoilers not really being spoilers because nothing makes sense anyway ("holy shit there's creamed corn in the convenience store!!") maybe we can do a relevant thread title that will confuse the hell out of ilx.

btw simon h, you made my day with "frog-penis-locust"

The lodgers really rose to the occasion - I really liked the teasing out of the idea of the blackened figures as being like the dehumanised, racialised Other prerequisite for the conception of something like the bomb (I had barely started thinking along these lines but not got further than the slightly crass thought "he got away with putting Lincoln in blackface", which I kept to myself)

the other great thing about the lodgers is kate's explorations of how women are portrayed in the show. none of the other podcasts i listen to cover the representation of women in any detail.

<3

because i can't stop watching part 8 i've just noticed the convenience store is on the edge of some kind of forest. does that mean it's nowhere near the bomb site? the aerial shot of the bomb doesn't look all that foresty.

The shot of the woodsmen attending to badcooper's corpse really reminds me of something, but I can't remember what! Silent, b/w, double exposed style transparent little people advancing on the camera. Maybe one of melies's faery films?

Night on Bald Mountain?

Maybe it's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNrQOUtXYOo

I don't have it to hand (because my entire library disappeared from iBooks wtf apple you suck) but there's a great story in reflections where I think it's ian Buchanan talks about filming this light fluffy soap opera/sitcom and coming into set one day and seeing buckets of blood all over the place, and realising there was this whole other show that he had essentially no part in. This sort of thing is why I love the tweets above from mädchen and Andrea hays (Heidi) about part 8, but this is an even more extreme version of that story because now virtually all the cast will have been watching that like "this is what I'm in?!"

Which reminds me: the author of that book, Brad Dukes, is apparently pretty upset about part 8 & tweeted that it was worse than the Evelyn Marsh episodes (he hates fwwm too tho which is why the oral history conspicuously misses out its production)

lmao

I can only compare last night with the day KID A leaked. Pure befuddlement, frustration, and ????

— brad dukes (@brad_d_) June 26, 2017

I sorta wanted to include some of the butthurt reactions to Ep 8 in that episode but ultimately I chickened out

I guess brad dukes is the nick hornby of the TP constellation

LOL imagining a generation of dudes for whom the day kid a leaked was like 9/11

imagine being shook by Radiohead

where did dukes say that? his twitter doesn't seem to really indicate he hated it

James and Evelyn episodes>>>#GottaLight #TwinPeaks

— brad dukes (@brad_d_) June 26, 2017

He could just really like those episodes I guess

Brad Dukes, you have bad opinions.

His book is great tho

his book is good. but I think he's definitely a 'straightforward narrative' fan

I sorta wanted to include some of the butthurt reactions to Ep 8 in that episode but ultimately I chickened out

It was the right decision to focus more on the number of people who were (perhaps surprisingly) receptive to it imo. Like of course there are gonna be people turned off by stuff like this but maybe the more important point to make is that far more people have an appetite for unconventional film/tv than your average studio exec might care to admit

yeah I like chuckling at the bad takes but they probably don't need a spotlight lol

looking back at my s3 fears from a few years ago, i was against the very idea cos of season 2, i was fearing another James/Evelyn. sooooo glad we got the complete opposite.

Take: we kind of are getting Evelyn mk ii

god I wish they'd called the Naomi Watts character Evelyn

there's still time

Like a lot of what ppl hate about that plotline is it's self-reflexive macguffiny intrigue set outside of twin peaks and disconnected from everything else, what this new thing shows is that there's no reason that can't be awesome. It's like what I was saying the other day about bad coop's supernatural electronics & Machiavellian plotting kind of showing how windom earle could have been done effectively, if lynch had only been more hands-on at that point.

I still think billy zane should have played windom earle

And Kenneth Welsh John Justice Wheeler?

The idea of preferring Double In-James-nity to the most recent episode is insane.

Am I correct in my recollection that Maclachlan is the only actor who was given access to the revival's entire script?

"I still think billy zane should have played windom earle"

at least then it would have been more fulfilling to see BOB set him on fire

"Am I correct in my recollection that Maclachlan is the only actor who was given access to the revival's entire script?"

I remember reading that too. I wonder if he's actually seen the whole series too? I think everyone involved hasn't seen a thing so they're experiencing it the same way the rest of the audience does.

I'm imagining a lot of sweaty forelock flopping about from Zane as Earle.

There was a really good interview with the music supervisor, he said he was one of "very few people" to read the whole thing (I guess McLachlan and Sabrina Sutherland would be two others)

LOL imagining a generation of dudes for whom the day kid a leaked was like 9/11

― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, June 30, 2017 9:34 AM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the irony being that Kid A leaked on 9/11/2001

(lol just kidding)

And Kenneth Welsh John Justice Wheeler?

in my dream version Audrey spends all of those scenes talking to herself

Probably one of the best analyses I've read so far on Season 3, The Return of Twin Peaks:

http://www.clickhole.com/article/culture-shock-everything-you-need-know-about-twin--6222

lol yes

If you don’t understand parts of the story, you’re probably really fucking dumb: Accept it. If you watch Twin Peaks and are confused by the story in any capacity whatsoever, your brain might as well be a goddamn litter box. All the surreal symbolism, dream logic, and non sequiturs are so, so easy to get, and if any of it flies over your head, then, shit, you’re honestly a profoundly dumb individual. Consider getting a home nurse, because people who can’t completely grasp Lynch’s exploration of man’s duality in its relationship to the balance and imbalance of nature are the type of people who need help bathing themselves and wiping.

apparently the music while the woodsmen are doing their ritual w Evil Cooper is Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata slowed down 5x. as recorded on a tape recorded by someone in a place with some monkey sounds?

Music as used in Ep 8
https://clyp.it/n2qdgupm

Music Sped Up 5x
https://clyp.it/kdnndxvl

haha, that's Ray's sped up screaming at the end.

omg Ray is a monkey

I knew it

TWIN PEAKS SOUNDTRACK REVEALS THE JOB OR NAME OF CAREL STRUYCKEN’S MYSTERIOUS “???????” CHARACTER

Thanks to the week-by-week reveal of the upcoming soundtrack‘s track listing on iTunes, we know the title of the new Angelo Badalamenti music that was used during the unnamed character’s wondrous levitation scene in the theater:

“The Fireman.”

Considering an alarm went off in his home, setting in motion a (rather unhurried) rescue action, we can assume that “???????” is that “Fireman.” 7 question marks for 7 letters. And in a world where “fire walk with me” is synonymous with evil, a fireman essential in the fight against it.

Love it. Fireman. I kind of had a ~theory~ about ??????? (which this doesn't quite invalidate)

Fire cannot kill a dragon.

many xposts but the pic of Cera made me think this is the perfect show for the trump era- things that happened only a few weeks ago feel like the far distant past

― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, June 30, 2017 12:20 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also the nonstop parade of absurdity and horror

i know a fireman who looks after the fire

This morning I found myself reciting "this is the water..." to myself and really thinking about the rhythm of each line.
First line is 10 syllables, second line is 5. Third line is 8 syllables, fourth line is 4.

It's extremely minor but also extremely cool.

that yrev cool