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The 'says who?' guy has his troubles:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/02/us/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump.html

But learns from the master:

Like Mr. Trump, he lashes out at critics on Twitter, where he also spends quite a bit of time fighting with anonymous critics, or trolls — calling them “haters” and “idiots,” sometimes within the comment threads of Mr. Trump’s tweets.

In one such exchange last week, a Twitter user named Corvetteman, who has 88 followers and a profile photograph of an orange cat, called Mr. Cohen “a joke.” Mr. Cohen replied: “Reminder...@realDonaldTrump won! Wake up #hater.”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 July 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link

I am also now remembering a while back (post 9/11, pre-Obama) my dad had a neighbor who was nasty to him about being Muslim in a series of escalating incidents (my stepmother does wear hijab). I remember telling him he needed to make a big stink about it and that his other neighbors would have his back. he seemed less confident about that than I was. now I wonder if I was wrong. he's a pediatrician and he had cared for some of those neighbors' kids. at the time I couldn't imagine they'd be okay with him getting harassed on the daily.

horseshoe, Monday, 3 July 2017 03:47 (six years ago) link

Speaking as someone who is currently required to read the Bible (mostly double-checking quotes) for a freelance project, uh, fuck no they shouldn't.

― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 July 2017 04:00 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is it the mandatory nature that you're against, or do you consider it, like, a dangerous book?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 3 July 2017 08:21 (six years ago) link

more that it's really boring

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

Genesis, Judges, the Chronicles, and the Kings are where it's at imo.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

I think it also helps to read what Biblical scholars have to say (both the religious folk and the agnostics like Bart Ehrman). the latter is really eye-opening and he writes in a very easy to follow format for laymen.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link

the Bible is great

korla pundit (crüt), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

I suppose I could imagine reading an annotate edition, like "The Annotate Alice" or something. We're talking the Old Testament, right? I'd totally read that or the Koran, thought just a lifetime of Jew stuff, however casual, as exposed me to most of the former, I suspect.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link

I just read the dirty parts.

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

Well, yeah. I bet the copy fell right open to them.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

The Bible contains both great literature and "pernicious nonsense" (I think that's a Penn Jillette quote, someone I'm generally not apt to quote)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

it's more for me that I got my fill of it the 4 years I spent in a Fundie church and their stupid interpretation of it ruined the parts I liked even though I knew the Methodists (where I grew up) had a far more forgiving look at things.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

but understanding what Fundies think about it, or Baptists, or any of the fire and brimstone crowd does allow you some deeper insight into why these people are so impossible to appease on everything.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

When I started buying music in my teens, I was amazed at how many lyrics are straight lifts from or homages to Old and New Testament verse.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link

"Turn, Turn, Turn"!

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

"harvester of sorrow - language of the dead!" or wait was that lovecraft

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

"what you got i want to give it put it in you". no?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

Metallica did have "Creeping Death" tho that was more the Bible by way of C.C. Demille

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

i.e. how most people know the Bible.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

bible by way of cc deville

mookieproof, Monday, 3 July 2017 14:22 (six years ago) link

Didn't Jesus say "every rose has its thorn?" I think so.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

it was close enough to get bill and ted into heaven iirc

🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 July 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

I think I first heard the line that goes "wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" in Portishead. Then I read saw the same lines in Innocents Abroad, and thought it interesting that Mark Twain was into Portishead. It comes from the Book of Jude.

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

the Bible is what it is, people have used it for good and for evil. it's not a collection of magical words that turn normal people into assholes. it's been a cultural channel for thousands of years for all kinds of people spanning power structures from slave to king. if a Bible-literate atheist were to be politically active they would be far more effective in debating/illustrating the nuance than wholly rejecting it. seceding it wholly to fundies is the stupidest move possible but i know dems are all about them idiotic culture wars rn.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

it's an arbitrary selection from thousands of Xtian writings.

personally I wish everybody's read the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, which is of course nonsense but p hilarious:

Most Delightfully Evil Thing Young Jesus Does in "The Infancy Gospel of Thomas" - a POLL

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

and god said unto moses 'it is what it is'

mookieproof, Monday, 3 July 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

and Jesus said to the adoring crowd: "give a fan a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish, he'll be fed for a lifetime. This of course will not do, privatize fish IMO".

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

thou shalt not kill - and here's why

🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

So, this Charlie Gard thing. He's going full fundie, right?

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Monday, 3 July 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

the prospect of trump helming a terri schiavo reboot is not a promising one, right enough

🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Unlike Schiavo, there's a natural limit, the 15 neonates with RRM2B-related encephalomyopathic mitochondrial DNA depletion have all died in months.

Glad the NHS is misspending scarce funds (keeping the kid on life support) to spare these parents of the circus of hope US Fundies would put them through.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

I open the Trump thread and get 35 straight posts about the Bible? Fellas, he doesn't read.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

preferring the Old Testament is fine but it's kind of a played-out opinion that ppl love to trot out for whatever reason. The New Testament is a fantastic read. The Gospel of John is a total headfuck to read right after the Synoptic Gospels. And the Pauline epistles are unrelenting.

korla pundit (crüt), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

The Old Testament gave me huge anxiety as a child

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

Like legit trepidation and fear.

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

uh yeah. on balance I wish I had never even heard of the bible.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 July 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

Adam otm

Xps

Οὖτις, Monday, 3 July 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

to swing things back toward the political zone a bit, i'm finishing up reza aslan's Zealot and would recommend it for anyone interested in actual jesus. it's written at about an 8th grade level so it's possible that someone like trump could actually get through a few paragraphs

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

people have used it for good and for evil

And to swat flies, and to prop up uneven table legs...

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

the thin pages of your typical gideon edition make reasonable rolling papers when you're in a jam iirc

🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

LIFEHACK

space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

it's written at about an 8th grade level so it's possible that someone like trump could actually get through a few paragraphs

Does it also have pictures, and include his name in bold print every third sentence or so?

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link

his special edition will replace all mentions of jesus with 'trump'

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

YOU MENTALISTS

the point is that the doctor is being forced by his circumstances into reading a scripture he may well have little interest in sorting out

yet all around him are people with zero inclination to do that with his

j., Monday, 3 July 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

> It is difficult to place Trump squarely within any of the known religiopolitical movements of his time. He was a man of profound contradictions, one day preaching a message of racial exclusion, the next, of benevolent universalism; sometimes calling for unconditional peace, sometimes promoting violence and conflict.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

war is peace, iirc

j., Monday, 3 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

he is large, multituding is easy.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

cool party

Per Playbook, Jared and Ivanka were at a party in the Hamptons yesterday with George Soros and Schumer, hosted by a former owner of WaPo pic.twitter.com/xbOXPdQb33

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) July 2, 2017

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link


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